How can you raise road tax revenue at the pump, when we are physically using less fuel?The collection of fuel tax at the pump is the most efficient way to raise money for the roads.
All the whining over tracking where you go would have to be overcome.The bigger issue too is as cars get more fuel efficient and alternative fuel vehicles come on line, you loose the tax revenue from your primary source.
Electric hybrid take over.
Fine. Base the road tax on miles driven. Not fuel purchased
It's what we're using now. I don't have a problem with a different method, as long as we're not talking manual toll collection.How can you raise road tax revenue at the pump, when we are physically using less fuel?
No. It's not whining. People have a right to not have their movements tracked by the government. Period.. That should not even be open for discussion.All the whining over tracking where you go would have to be overcome.
Fine... you can pay for my next round of suspension repairs due to that infantile attitude.There should be no increase in any kind of highway taxes until the swamp is drained and measures are put in place to make sure NONE of it is spent on anything you can't drive on. No bicycle paths, statues of dead politicians, mass transit systems, rail, airports, signs that say "Some Dead Guy Memorial Bridge", etc.
No. It's not whining. People have a right to not have their movements tracked by the government. Period.. That should not even be open for discussion.
The only "whining" is from Big Brother saying "but the electric cars don't pay their fair share" .
Fine. If "green" vehicles aren't paying fuel taxes and a new system based on vehicle miles needs created, so be it. But it can be done without tracking everybody's movements.
What difference does it make NOW where you go with your car? What if one guy buys his gas in the town he lives in but commutes 100 miles each way to work every day using mostly federal highways but his neighbor gets his gas at the same gas station but drives the same amount of miles while never leaving town, because he delivers pizzas or something?
The vast majority of people driving around in Chicago don't live in Chicago. They commute from the suburbs and buy their gas there because the taxes are too high in Chicago. And yet somehow Chicago still has funds to plow their 8 billion miles of pavement every time it snows.
Why in the hell would tracking everyone's movements be necessary when all you'd need is a tamper-proof odometer?
If Chicago needs money for pothole repairs because nobody is stupid enough to buy gas in the city if they can get it in the suburbs where they're not taxed to death, the mayor whines to the state or the feds and they get their funding.
Flat tax based only on total miles driven, with no regard to where they were driven, and let the government do it's ****ing job and disperse the collected taxes based only on where it's needed.
It's not complicated.
In fact it's way less complicated than having computers constantly analyze the routes driven by 8468534552375 people.
The "we need to track everyone so we know which roads they wear out" is just a bullshit excuse to track people. Thanks to Snowden, we know the government loves to spy on everyone, so it should come as no surprise that they'll make up whatever bullshit excuse they can think of to continue to do so.
We are getting a tax hike in TennesseeThis exact topic has been hugely debated in Tennessee over the last few months.
I've listened to both sides of the argument from every angle.
As a strict conservative (fiscal and social) I am never in favor of raising taxes. My heart skips a beat just thinking about it.
BUT -- I do believe that building/maintaining roads and bridges is 1/3 of the primary functions of the Federal Government, as designed and intended by the Founding Fathers.
I understand completely why the numbers don't work, as MN Driver points out, something is stinky in Helsinki. In the end, They're gonna have to have more of a budget to fix the roads. I'm not even going to debate IF it's necessary.
My conclusion is that the tax should never be a flat dollar amount. It should be a percentage. The percentage should never have to go up.
The big problem with the electric, CNG, hybrids and the Amish not paying their share must be addressed by a flat tax due every year when they register/renew their dooshy little Prius or their buggy.
This would work well.All for privatizing roads, and tolling them on a per use basis. Most lose their damn minds at the suggestion.
However a wheel tax is as simple as a certified check of your odometer at every plate renewal. No need to track movements etc. A simple line on your registration with last years odometer reading and this years. Of course a lot of people are going to try and fake it or just as some here do not bother. We just confiscate their vehicle when caught and sell it at auction for their share