Dash cam, bird dog and laser speed measuring devices

Ontario Outlaw

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Insurance companies are suggesting we put in dash cams. This one would tie in with my bird dog, not sure whether to go standalone or have them paired up. Y’alls run a dash cam?

Anyone know much about the laser speed measuring devices? I understand how the K and Ka band ones work pretty well, however laser is starting to appear more and more.

I’m probably the only dinosaur left running a bird dog y’all can skip the trolling telling me it’s a waste of time. Bird dog is $6-900, I bet easy saves you $1500 in tickets a year.
 

Nomad1

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Insurance companies are suggesting we put in dash cams. This one would tie in with my bird dog, not sure whether to go standalone or have them paired up. Y’alls run a dash cam?

Anyone know much about the laser speed measuring devices? I understand how the K and Ka band ones work pretty well, however laser is starting to appear more and more.

I’m probably the only dinosaur left running a bird dog y’all can skip the trolling telling me it’s a waste of time. Bird dog is $6-900, I bet easy saves you $1500 in tickets a year.
I wouldn't want them paired up. I see no benefit to it. Also what about where the bird dog is illegal? Is the insurance company giving you a discount for having the camera? Laser speed detection devices work well and are very common. They have been for years.
 

Ontario Outlaw

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I’ve only run into one laser speed detection device. Most LEOs still run the K band detectors, in my experience

Unless the cruisers still have something else emitting a K band signal?
 

Duck

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Radar and laser detectors are illegal in commercial vehicles in the United States. Not just Virginia. (in Virginia they're illegal for everyone)
 

Nomad1

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I’ve only run into one laser speed detection device. Most LEOs still run the K band detectors, in my experience

Unless the cruisers still have something else emitting a K band signal?
There is a lot of things emitting on the K band. Many detectors emit a K band. Supermarket doors are K band. I wonder if any of the systems on trucks and cars that tell you that you're too close or crossing the line etc are K. With that much K band being used I don't see how a radar detector does any good with K band.
 

Ontario Outlaw

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You can tell on the highway when you approaching a LEO. It’ll hit k band, they’ll gun you and carry on. It’s idiotproof
 

Nomad1

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Garmin 45 dash cam. Just to CYA in case of an accident
What benefit does this have over a knockoff GoPro? They can be had for less than $20 now. Of course you would still need a memory card and to erase and reuse it.
 

Mike

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What benefit does this have over a knockoff GoPro? They can be had for less than $20 now. Of course you would still need a memory card and to erase and reuse it.
If somebody hits my truck while I’m sleeping or away from it, it saves the footage. It has also worked flawlessly.

I had an actual GoPro, it would stop working completely. I think because it was getting hot in the windshield. Gave that to the kids. Tried a Cobra after that, it was an absolute piece of crap that didn’t work half the time. Gave it back to the store within a week.
 

Nomad1

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If somebody hits my truck while I’m sleeping or away from it, it saves the footage. It has also worked flawlessly.

I had an actual GoPro, it would stop working completely. I think because it was getting hot in the windshield. Gave that to the kids. Tried a Cobra after that, it was an absolute piece of crap that didn’t work half the time. Gave it back to the store within a week.
Thanks. I didn't think about the overheating issue.
 

Ranger_375

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The thing that you're not taking into account is how radar can actually be used.

The radar unit isn't always transmitting. Modern units have multiple modes of operation, with the least used being constant on, tone monitored and highest speed lock. Typically that's only used if an officer is roadside doing paperwork.

Rest of the time, it's instant on. They ping if they think someone's coming too hot. At that point, they have your speed, your detector went off, congrats, you knew you were hit. Same with Laser, you're aimed at as a suspected speeder, shot with laser, and in that instant your detector went off and the officer has your speed locked.

The only thing a detector is doing in those cases is getting you to slow down so the officer doesn't have to drive as far/as fast to catch up to pull you over.

Speeding isn't going to get you there much faster and it burns even more fuel. I have yet to find a load that's "that hot" AND has a profit margin high enough to offset:

  • The price of a ticket should I be caught
  • The associated residual fallout for MY CSA score
  • The associated residual fallout for the company's CSA score and following increased pull-in amount for scales
Not worth it.
 

ironpony

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The thing that you're not taking into account is how radar can actually be used.

The radar unit isn't always transmitting. Modern units have multiple modes of operation, with the least used being constant on, tone monitored and highest speed lock. Typically that's only used if an officer is roadside doing paperwork.

Rest of the time, it's instant on. They ping if they think someone's coming too hot. At that point, they have your speed, your detector went off, congrats, you knew you were hit. Same with Laser, you're aimed at as a suspected speeder, shot with laser, and in that instant your detector went off and the officer has your speed locked.

The only thing a detector is doing in those cases is getting you to slow down so the officer doesn't have to drive as far/as fast to catch up to pull you over.

Speeding isn't going to get you there much faster and it burns even more fuel. I have yet to find a load that's "that hot" AND has a profit margin high enough to offset:

  • The price of a ticket should I be caught
  • The associated residual fallout for MY CSA score
  • The associated residual fallout for the company's CSA score and following increased pull-in amount for scales
Not worth it.
Don't forget the federal inspection will also list a violation for the radar detector.
 

Ranger_375

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Don't forget the federal inspection will also list a violation for the radar detector.
There's that as well. Not a problem for me, as I don't have one. There's few places where the speed limit isn't "fast enough" anyway. Looking at you, California...
 

Ontario Outlaw

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The thing that you're not taking into account is how radar can actually be used.

The radar unit isn't always transmitting. Modern units have multiple modes of operation, with the least used being constant on, tone monitored and highest speed lock. Typically that's only used if an officer is roadside doing paperwork.

Rest of the time, it's instant on. They ping if they think someone's coming too hot. At that point, they have your speed, your detector went off, congrats, you knew you were hit. Same with Laser, you're aimed at as a suspected speeder, shot with laser, and in that instant your detector went off and the officer has your speed locked.

The only thing a detector is doing in those cases is getting you to slow down so the officer doesn't have to drive as far/as fast to catch up to pull you over.

Speeding isn't going to get you there much faster and it burns even more fuel. I have yet to find a load that's "that hot" AND has a profit margin high enough to offset:

  • The price of a ticket should I be caught
  • The associated residual fallout for MY CSA score
  • The associated residual fallout for the company's CSA score and following increased pull-in amount for scales
Not worth it.
Not quite true. MOST times the officer will be emitting some form of K band radar that’s gives you plenty of warning. You slow up, they gun you, you get out of range get back into the fuel

Laser can be a bit tricky

AND we all know gotta go near scales to get pulled in. Can’t get pulled around back if you don’t cross that plate

I don’t really know what a CSA score is and don’t worry none much about it
 
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