bee keeping

gearjammer

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well my health has improved enough that my doctors have told me that I should think of a hobby to get into that involved the outside instead of being cooped up in my shop so I started to investigate bee keeping.

in prepping looking at honey it has many uses for preppers, it is healthy, has medicinal qualities,[perhaps @DrDaliah will weigh in of this] and best of all it keeps forever.

I am wondering if anyone else is into bee keeping perhaps we can get a pretty good thread going on the in's and out's of beekeeping
 

Rigjockey

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well my health has improved enough that my doctors have told me that I should think of a hobby to get into that involved the outside instead of being cooped up in my shop so I started to investigate bee keeping.

in prepping looking at honey it has many uses for preppers, it is healthy, has medicinal qualities,[perhaps @DrDaliah will weigh in of this] and best of all it keeps forever.

I am wondering if anyone else is into bee keeping perhaps we can get a pretty good thread going on the in's and out's of beekeeping
@Racer6x9 knew a bit about it but good luck with that one.
I don't know anything about it but I would be interested to read a thread if others chime in or you choose to pursue it.
 

gearjammer

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right now I am taking 2 online courses and next month going to a hands on 2 day course,

there is a lot more to learn than I ever thought possible I just found an amish family close by that sells equipment and different strains of bees and is most importantly willing to share his knowledge and expertise with me so far things are going well.

a lot of the hardware I am going to buy used, there is a guy in Indiana that tried beekeeping in a BIG way starting with 60 hives and lost all the bees 2 years running and he is having a fire sale on everything.

I have figured out that if everything is new it costs about 400 bucks to set up a hive, I fully intend to make a lot of the supers myself, the Amish guy is going to teach me how to catch swarms and how to divide a colony it will take longer than just buying everything but hey it is suppose to be a hobby

another thing I have figured out is that while there is money to be made there is also ways to make money in several aspects of beekeeping so it is looking good so far.

for any trucker that would like to try their hand at this there is one type of hive that doesn't take a whole lot of time and does produce a decent amount of honey it is called a warre hive if you are interested google it just remember the time to start is now.

this is one of the online courses if you are interested

PerfectBee: To Your First Beehive and Beyond - PerfectBee
 

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One of our part time escort drivers a few years ago was a beekeeper, third generation.

His family was the sole supplier for honey to Leinenkugels Brewery over in Chippewa Falls.

They trucked their bees south every winter.
 

gearjammer

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well I finally got to building my hive boxes. built 8 deep boxes for brood chambers, and sixteen medium boxes for honey supers, all 8 frame boxes to reduce the weight when full.
technically I have enough boxes to start 10 hives since the hives will have to get established for the first year and will have enough room to do so for a while.
bee schools went fine even got to have some one on one time with the professor from OSU. for about an hour and he gave me a lot of insight on things not discussed in the schooling that should give me a leg up in the first year.
I ended up ordering two nuc colonies to start with and then hope to capture a few swarms this spring, I also made a deal to help a beekeeper out this spring that does cutouts, he just doesn't have the time to do them himself, the deal is he will keep 75% of the fee and I will get the bees and comb from the cutouts.
the beauty of ferel bees form a cut out is that they have proven to be able to survive without any help from human intervention the trade off is they can be a bit to a lot more aggressive than domesticated bees, the answer to that problem is if they are not too aggressive and are good at the traits I will be looking for [honey production,brood production, ect] is to keep the queen line going, if they are too agressive the answer is just to requeen them, with a queen that has the traits I want. Either way I get free colonies!

If you are looking to get into this and have a small table saw, a radial arm saw is a nice extra but not necessary, router, cordless drill, and some time you can build the boxes and frames and save a ton of money, I have about $200.00 in what I have so far and it would have cost me over $600.00 if I bought the woodware myself.
I did order plastic foundation which is a bit more expensive than wax but will save on labor and time in the long run and last much longer.
next us I am going to build four swarm bait boxes you can make four boxes out of one sheet of 1/2 inch plywood.

finally I have started to build a bee vacuum to get the bees when doing cutouts, can build it a hell of a lot cheaper and better than what they want for for a store bought one.
stay tuned
 

gearjammer

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my wife just ordered me a T shirt is says;

WARNING BEE KEEPER
IF YOU SEE ME RUNNING
PLEASE TRY TO KEEP UP !!!
 

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well my health has improved enough that my doctors have told me that I should think of a hobby to get into that involved the outside instead of being cooped up in my shop so I started to investigate bee keeping.

in prepping looking at honey it has many uses for preppers, it is healthy, has medicinal qualities,[perhaps @DrDaliah will weigh in of this] and best of all it keeps forever.

I am wondering if anyone else is into bee keeping perhaps we can get a pretty good thread going on the in's and out's of beekeeping
Dont forget @gearjammer that HONEY never SPOILS..

When they excavated Egyptian pyramid burial sites they always left honey..

Upon testing that Pyramid Honey was still "edible" after thousand years
 

gearjammer

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well had a bit of mishap last night.
I was cutting wood for the frames, using the table saw and had a sharp pain hit my back and jerked and my middle finger met the saw blade.
went to the hospital where the x-rays revealed that I shattered the bone about an 1/8 inch back from the tip and it looked like I stuck my finger into a blender.
the doctor took over an hour to sew the meat back together we were joking with each other about the fact that at least for that finger I was going to have an entirely different fingerprint.

this was entirely my fault, last November when I had the revision done on my hip I was given a low does of a Narcotic and used them sparingly not for the hip pain but for all my pain I did more in 5 weeks than I have been able to do for years.

of course my working and enjoyment came to an end when the pain pills do and I got depressed because I want want to continue to be able to do the things I enjoy, my pain Dr. refuses to write me a script for the back pain opting instead for another form of pain relief and after 5 years expensive and failed treatments he has yet to come up with something that works so stupid me I drank 6 or 7 beers that kinda reliever the pain for a while or maybe it is because I get half crocked and just don't give a **** I decided it was time to play with power equipment, stupid move and now a got a new pain to add to an already long list.

learned a hard lesson just glad I didn't' do something worse
 

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well had a bit of mishap last night.
I was cutting wood for the frames, using the table saw and had a sharp pain hit my back and jerked and my middle finger met the saw blade.
went to the hospital where the x-rays revealed that I shattered the bone about an 1/8 inch back from the tip and it looked like I stuck my finger into a blender.
the doctor took over an hour to sew the meat back together we were joking with each other about the fact that at least for that finger I was going to have an entirely different fingerprint.

this was entirely my fault, last November when I had the revision done on my hip I was given a low does of a Narcotic and used them sparingly not for the hip pain but for all my pain I did more in 5 weeks than I have been able to do for years.

of course my working and enjoyment came to an end when the pain pills do and I got depressed because I want want to continue to be able to do the things I enjoy, my pain Dr. refuses to write me a script for the back pain opting instead for another form of pain relief and after 5 years expensive and failed treatments he has yet to come up with something that works so stupid me I drank 6 or 7 beers that kinda reliever the pain for a while or maybe it is because I get half crocked and just don't give a **** I decided it was time to play with power equipment, stupid move and now a got a new pain to add to an already long list.

learned a hard lesson just glad I didn't' do something worse
Think you find those bees to be very interesting critters. Good you will be able to keep the finger even if it got a new print too it. Might also be good idea to check out water therapy for that pain. Hoping you see improvement with every thing.
 

gearjammer

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well the bee housing is complete, got all the equipment either here or ordered, ended up making a half dozen swarm boxes hoping to catch a few swarms [free bees] going to get 2 nucs of bees to start with [not nearly so free] built a bee vacuum built and the equipment ready to do some cut outs,[more free bees], now just waiting on the weather to warm up and get started.
 

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Do you plan on feeding them?
 

gearjammer

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Do you plan on feeding them?
sure I made 6 top feeders they hold around 3 gallons probably will feed them at least 2 months already bought 200 lbs of sugar so all I have to do is mix it up.
I also have 20 lbs of pollen to make up pollen patties until they get a good start.

I bought th nucs to be sure to have a couple of colonies to work with swarming season should start in about a month and I am hoping to catch a few, and the cutouts I am hoping to get will come from another beekeeper that is called all the time but doesn't have the time to do them all, he is going to take me on a few calls, I get the bees he gets the money, kinda a fair trade off for my labor money wise he says he usually gets 50 bucks an hour and can have anywhere from 2 to 5 hours in the job, so it can be a good sideline business.
once I start doing them myself I have a friend that wants to help which is good because with my back I ain't planning on going up ladders of lifting anything over 25 lbs, I just wish I was up to doing any repair work that would be even more money in my pocket.

speaking of the cutouts I am really interested in getting them started because being a feral colony they have proven that they have a certain amount of disease resistance and also mite resistance and have made it on their own,without any help.

next winter I plan on learning about queen rearing and exactly how to pass the genetics of the superior qualities on to future generations

hopefully if all goes well I will have strong enough hives that I will split them and sell some nucs myself next year along with some new queens.

one other thing I found out is since bees are considered an endangered species the money I have invested in my "hobby" is tax deductible and since I have more invested in this than I would have ever thought that is welcome news and it is also pacifying my wife at the same time,lol
 

dave350

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Wow. Sounds like you’re making some really big strides. I had no idea there was a little money to be made in bees. Also had no idea it was tax deductible? How close to your house will you have the hives? The reason I ask is I’m on a half acre of land so if I did it the hives would be maybe 125’ from the back door. Once I move the chicken coup out I could put hives approximately in that location. Do you plan on selling the honey?
 

Silverwolf

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nice, but i don''t think the bee's are gonna notice thier new abode as much as the neighbors
Actually, the hive lives in there, just like a regular hive, except you don't have to disrupt the hive to get the honey. Turn the valve when the honey is full in the window, when its empty into your container, close the valve and the bees carry on without any disruption. Multiple chambers so your never out of honey. Drastically improves and increases production, without the need for other equipment. And, yes, it sure looks snazzy, compared to a bunch of high maintenance boxes in your yard. Cost a bit more, but worth it in the end in labour alone.
 
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