Trucking product idea - need opinions from real truckers

Discussion in 'Trucking Technology' started by samresnick, Apr 12, 2017.

  1. samresnick

    samresnick Member

    I am a student at MIT. I am a junior in Mechanical Engineering and am taking a class called Venture Engineering taught bill Scott Stern and Bill Aulet. This is a project for that class.
     
  2. 8978

    8978 ** Commie Express ** Supporter

    Sounds better. We have many people on here posing as this and that just looking to write an App. I'm not a trucker. I'm a software engineer working at a lab in Norwood, MA. I use to work at MIT in the 90's. Symbolics next door also. Office above Legal Sea Foods in Kendal square. F&T diner back then with the best greasy cheeseburgers.

    My specialty is Micro's and embedded systems. I'm assuming your talking maybe accelerometers, G forces sensors, GPS for speed? Stuff like that?

    Sounds like a good idea. Something telling the driver when to up shift and down shift? Adding 1mpg to your average would be a HUGE improvement.
     
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  3. Injun

    Injun Rabid Squaw Staff Member Supporter

    Once a trucker, always a trucker. Just because it was a seven year interlude between geeking and geeking, doesn't mean you're not a trucker.
     
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  4. Blood

    Blood Driveler Emeritus Supporter

    Right.
    It's like being a douche...
    ok, bad example since @Skateboard never took a break from douchebaggery.
    ;)
     
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  5. gearjammer

    gearjammer jammer Staff Member Supporter

    actually we are all or were freight relocation specialists
     
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  6. Injun

    Injun Rabid Squaw Staff Member Supporter

    The fancy new term one of our mid-management guys is trying out on us is "CVO." Commercial Vehicle Operator.

    He's kind of a putz.
     
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  7. dchawk81

    dchawk81 Well-Known Member

    I'm a Zip Tie Application Specialist.

    I also dabble as a Locking Mechanism Beater with Hammerer.
     
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  8. rigjockey

    rigjockey Token Canadian.

    NICE!:thumbsup: when the operator drops a can on a turned pin! Bang! Done and done!:thumbsup:
     
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  9. TheWanderer

    TheWanderer Member

    MIT, check out the new automatic transmissions in 2018 Freightliner that use GPS data to look ahead and shift for maximal fuel economy speed management tocsee what's out there. You want to do a real useful app? Plug into that ECM and monitor that engine data to compute newtonian engine force applied, then correlate it with GPS data to TELL US HOW HEAVY WE ARE!!!! ( It could only be measured going up hill and accellerating, but gps has altitude data) That would save many miles if we can see we are light enough to not scale. Phase 2? Find away to measure something (with air bags maybe) on drive axles to tell us our specific drive axle weight, so we can deduce trailer axle weight from first app. A cheap way to do self weighing trucks with existing equipment will make you forever loved by us, amd save us lots of money.
     
  10. Ranger_375

    Ranger_375 Well-Known Member

    umm your second phase is standard equipment on some trucks.
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    taken from my dashboard before I sleep in my prostar.....lol
     
  11. ironpony

    ironpony Well-Known Member Supporter

    Right Weigh is a product you hook to your drives and tandems that reports axle weights based on air bag pressures. Fairly accurate. You can do the same with air pressure gages and a calculator to convert pressure to weight.

    Pretty cheap too
     
  12. GAnthony

    GAnthony Well-Known Member

    i do believe that many trucks now have this already with the onboard computers, or other plug-in devices.

    the vebals cues may be an ok thing, as still to this day, even the best of the best trucks built, can still be a bit noisy inside. especially if a driver has a radio blaring music. or he/she is talking on the cb radio, and your device cuts in to say something.
     
  13. TheWanderer

    TheWanderer Member

    I didn't know about that, ironpony. Thx for info, I will look into that.

    I still think my idea is cool. I'm not a physics guru, but I remember some stuff from high school. When a trailer accelerates around a right or left 90 degree turn, we all know how the trailer tracks. The interesting part is that the trailer tires take a shorter route, then catch up. So I think with just engine data on the force generated around the turn, and enough info to plot the turn (gps? Steering angle in truck computer?) the truck computer could actually figure out both the drive weight and trailer weight on its own, given the steer weight. (Easy acceleration early in turn hard later =heavy trailer axles, vice versa = heavy drives)

    What you're talking about would probably be way more accurate, but for an MIT guy looking for an engineering challenge, full weights from engine computer might impress the employers.
     
  14. Injun

    Injun Rabid Squaw Staff Member Supporter

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people got through school after failing basic fifth-grade geometry. Just yesterday, I was waiting at a right turn for the cross road's left turn lane to clear so that my trailer wouldn't take out the light pole on the corner. No fewer than three cars went around me blaring their horns and either giving me the WTF hands-up shrug or simply flipping me off. Apparently, their belief is I should have just taken out the light pole or run over four of the cars waiting to turn left.

    Basic geometry, folks.. not much I can do but wait. Sorry for inconveniencing you for 35 seconds.
     
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  15. mndriver

    mndriver curmudgeon extraordinare Staff Member Supporter

    like it would be even so difficult as to need a riteway.


    diameter of air bags, a sensor in the air supply to the bags and a little 3rd grade math.
     
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  16. ironpony

    ironpony Well-Known Member Supporter

    Two scale tickets - one mty and the other near gross and a calculator is all you need to calibrate something like that.
     
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