School Supply Lists

Discussion in 'Truckers and Parenting' started by Sinister, Jul 25, 2014.

  1. Sinister

    Sinister Smartass Emeritus Supporter

    Every year since kindergarten, maybe even in 4k, we get these school supply lists.

    They list the supplies we're supposed to send to school. There is a day they set aside in August, which this year is also photo day, where you're supposed to drop these supplies off during the business day, which mandates a half day, or a full day off work.

    The total costs of these lists are usually about $100-120. Sometimes the supplies are pooled and distributed amongst the class (which is a huge lesson in Socialism if you ask me), and sometimes they're for the individual student to be used throughout the year.

    These things irritate the hell out of me. @Sinisters Wife just got a job as a SPED teacher, and believe me, it's NOT teacher salaries that make these lists necessary. Principals and Administrator salaries maybe. In fact...probably.

    But they make me wonder where my tax money goes.

    Anyone else deal with these, and what do you think of them?
  2. 8978

    8978 ** Commie Express ** Supporter

    Actually I think the school budget is the biggest portion of your where your tax money goes. A town or city is only allowed to tax you up to a certain portion of your evaluation. There should be a website for your town/city that shows where every penny of your tax money goes.

    I live in a very wealthy town. Not by choice. It wasn't wealthy when I moved there and could not afford to move there now if I lived in another town. My town and the next town near us have more millionaires per capita then anywhere else in the U.S. The school system in both our towns get donations in the many million dollar range. If the town needs anything someone buys it.

    I think if most people looked at the budget with regards to the school system they would be embarrassed.
  3. mndriver

    mndriver curmudgeon extraordinare Supporter

    Been that way since we were in school as kids.

    I had a teacher send home a list of "classroom supplies" we were supposed to provide. I sent her back a copy of the property tax bill with the same question, "what's this item for the school district for?". I never saw that list again come home.
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  4. AK7

    AK7 Well-Known Member

    It's a scam...
    You pay taxes to fund the schools and they claim you have to supplement what the district can't afford...
    Then you take somebody that is retired and they are still being taxed for the schools,even though their kids have been out for 30 years.
    So,wheres all the money going?????????
    Our old neighbor was retired and he used to go to the school board meetings and stir **** up..
    Congrats to @Sinisters Wife for getting the job...
    My wife worked with SPED when we lived in Milwaukee...
    I used to take the truck to school for show and tell,just for the SPED kids...
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  5. Mike

    Mike Well-Known Member Staff Member

    Thanks, you just put me in a bad mood, and it's not even August yet.

    One of ours is in Junior High now, so she is out of the community purchase project we call school supplies.

    That leaves two more who we have to get this list for. Our kids just have to take them to school with them, and we REFUSE to send all that crap for everyone else's kids to use.

    The list is absolutely stupid. I am convinced we are buying teacher's supplies as well as student's supplies. permanent markers, dry erase markers, all the crap that the teachers use in class.

    So, we buy the supplies, and send part of them to school. We are supposed to buy multiple boxes of pencils. Bite me! The kid goes to school with a couple pencils in their backpack. As they need more, they take more, but they are not taking the entire list to school just to be redistributed to the entire class and to the teacher.

    Then to take this further, we get hit during the year for money. Money for this function, money for that function. They have a day where they eat pizza.. Actually, they have a day like this a few times during the year. A pizza is less than $10, and has 6+ slices. Big slices. We have to send enough money to almost pay for an entire pizza. Why? because maybe 1/3 of the parents actually send money. They got me on this one, because I am NOT going to be one of those parents and I am not going to tell my kid to not eat the pizza.

    Same with snacks. A note gets sent home saying that they are letting the kids eat snacks on some certain days, particularly when they are studying for the stupid state test that proves nothing. All parents are supposed to send something with their kids. We basically end up feeding the entire class because 2-3 parents actually send something.

    now, let it be a day when the parents get to eat with the kids? All the parents show up, but they STILL don't put their money in.

    Yeah, the school supply list sucks. As does public skewls.
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  6. Injun

    Injun Rabid Squaw Staff Member Supporter

    When I was a kid, we'd get the List. My dad would get everything on it and send it to school with us, but the teachers only ever confiscated the kleenex and we'd never see it again. What the hell is up with that? Is there some black market where teachers scalp kleenex or something??
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  7. rigjockey

    rigjockey Token Canadian.

    That sounds crazy. It sounds communist. Even in a socialist country I was sent to school with pencils and pens and paper that my mom bought. Those where mine. There was no community chest of supplies. I have to say even now it sounds ridiculous. Your taxes pay or should cover all that. Sure enough there was pizza days and Hotdog days. I am pretty sure everyone on here has been left out of something and you never want to have your kids go through that so you send the money.
    IMO and only IMO. They have a big enough budget, If you can not fund the extras, Then do not propose the extras.
    I cant help but say that teacher and teachers unions and the education system have different political belief than I do!
  8. 8978

    8978 ** Commie Express ** Supporter

    Things have changed a lot since Little House on the Prairie there John Boy.
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  9. rigjockey

    rigjockey Token Canadian.

    Yes they Have. Back in the day the town was expected to pay for the schoolhouse. Now days Taxes ought to cover it all..
  10. 8978

    8978 ** Commie Express ** Supporter

    I think most of you do not understand how taxes and budgets work. You all need to go on your town's web page and download the budget and start slashing here and there. You only have so much money so if you want to supply paper, pens, pencils and other supplies something has to go.
  11. rigjockey

    rigjockey Token Canadian.

    I would gladly supply my kid with all the supplies and tools they need for any class. I dont think i need to fund another kids with supplies, I will and would if need be but by my choice.
  12. mndriver

    mndriver curmudgeon extraordinare Supporter

    Trickier than that....

    In .gov, even more so than private sector, if you don't spend your budget, (including expected budget increases) you get you budget slashed hard. So you might pinch pennies for a good portion of the year, when you see things suddenly going black, you suddenly can afford things and little projects get completed.

    Friend of ours became a county commissioner and another city counselman and it was impressive how they got **** so screwed up in taxes, they tried to cut some taxes and it was a bigger struggle to cut the excess than it was to increase taxes. I wish I could explain in a way that makes sense like they did.
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  13. rigjockey

    rigjockey Token Canadian.

    Call me a trucker but, I have a problem with being mandated or ordered or Yeah i have A big problem with those that think they are my authority.
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  14. rigjockey

    rigjockey Token Canadian.

    Pretty much. If you do not spend your budget then it gets cut.Less money.If you over spend then you can ask for more money. Say what? Yes if you over spend you get more money. how messed up is that?
  15. Mike

    Mike Well-Known Member Staff Member

    Exactly the point I made. It's not my job to buy everyone elses stuff.
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  16. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Well-Known Member

    Glad I never had kids.

    We had lists when growing up, but it was for your stuff. Kids with no money got items from the teacher through special funds.

    I see this and shake my head. Then I look at the budget and see the huge salaries paid to the superintendent and the principles and then see the lower paid teacher who actually works getting paid much less. I believe they had a good idea for schools, but have turned it into a cash cow.
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  17. Sinisters Wife

    Sinisters Wife Well-Known Member

    For the last fourteen years I worked in a high school where what the kids brought was for them to use in the classes. Science would request they have their own binder but the rest really didn't care as long as you could write what they said and turn your homework in. But middle school and elementary schools send home the lists. I will have my students use the items they bought for themselves, except the tissues and Clorox wipes. I will put them in a closet. I do Clorox the tables and door handles almost daily. My last class went through a TON of tissues but we bought them with school funds. I do find it annoying to have to buy all this stuff for my son. I usually buy in September when the left overs are on sale for the next year. This way is cuts down on having to buy so many items. I have to buy 10 out of the 20 listed this year.
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  18. Kiwi303

    Kiwi303 Not a fruit

    Do US and Canadian stationary get classified by size etc? 1B5, 3C2 etc... ? Size of of book, lined/unlined/squares, size of lines/squares

    Here we would get a list, but it was OUR list...

    Science would be xxx notebook and xxx graph squared book,
    English would be loose leaf refill and xxx notebook and xxx book,
    and so on.

    All the teachers supplies were supplied by the school, that's what the govt is there to provide.

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