Recognizing Truck Driving as Skilled Occupation

Discussion in 'Canadian Trucking' started by Rasar, Apr 27, 2015.

  1. Mike

    Mike Well-Known Member Staff Member

    Of course!
  2. Rasar

    Rasar Well-Known Member

    Maybe this is the beginning? Companies wait until all truckers in Canada will stop work?

    BRAMPTON, Ont. — Truckers represented by the Container Trucking Association of Ontario (CTAO) have returned to work, after signing an “unprecedented” deal with the industry, the group announced.

    The deal was signed at 6:30 p.m. yesterday, following a nine-day strike.

    The CTAO said the new deal “includes a fair percentage increase in rates for the first time in over a decade and is unprecedented in the North American container trucking industry.”

    The agreement also addresses wait times at terminals, the group claims.

    “Both parties came together in good faith and we thank the CEOs who have signed today, we applaud your leadership, courage and cooperation,” said Patrick Rhodin, CTAO president.
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  3. vaportrail

    vaportrail Well-Known Member

    will not happen lets face it, its not rocket science
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  4. Duck

    Duck Quack Supporter

    What part of "80,000 pound missile" do you not understand? o_O
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  5. rigjockey

    rigjockey Token Canadian.

    News to me. I work out of Brampton and ain't heard a damned thing about any can hauler agreement or strike! I hauled cans back in the day and made a ton of money doing it. The new to bampton/Canada can haulers destroyed the industry as they did the taxi industry.

    Same as the dump truck industry, Took the rates to a level where no one could earn living, Killing honest paying companies and then get all communist. Talking about we can't survive, You owe us a living.
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  6. rigjockey

    rigjockey Token Canadian.

    There is no way in hell there was any strike or agreement.

    The can hauler companies are not unionised or is cahoots in any way.

    Companies set there own rates in regards to haulage and storage, The rail set the times, Wait times the two are mutually exclusive.

    A North American container industry? Trust me they are very different between America and North America ( Canada)
  7. Duck

    Duck Quack Supporter

    Yours wear turbans & togas & ours wear ushankas and nylon jogging pants. Other than that, what's the difference?
  8. vaportrail

    vaportrail Well-Known Member

    mmmmmmmm yoga pants
  9. rigjockey

    rigjockey Token Canadian.

    I meant the way drayage companies and ports are run But yeah, I get the joke.
  10. Duck

    Duck Quack Supporter

    What joke? :confused-96:
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  11. Blood

    Blood Driveler Emeritus Supporter

    It ain't funny.

  12. Rasar

    Rasar Well-Known Member

    Hopefully, something has begun to move.

    WASHINGTON, D.C. – The US Department of Transportation’s Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) announced today the publication of a Final Rule that prohibits coercion and helps to safeguard commercial truck and bus drivers from being compelled to violate federal safety regulations.

    The Rule gives FMCSA the authority to take enforcement action not only against motor carriers, but also against shippers, receivers, and transportation intermediaries.

    “Our nation relies on millions of commercial vehicle drivers to move people and freight, and we must do everything we can to ensure that they are able to operate safely,” said US Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx. “This Rule enables us to take enforcement action against anyone in the transportation chain who knowingly and recklessly jeopardizes the safety of the driver and of the motoring public.”

    According to FMCSA, the Rule addresses the three key areas around driver coercion: procedures for commercial truck and bus drivers to report incidents of coercion to the FMCSA, steps the agency could take when responding to such allegations, and penalties that may be imposed on entities found to have coerced drivers.

    “Any time a motor carrier, shipper, receiver, freight-forwarder, or broker demands that a schedule be met, one that the driver says would be impossible without violating hours-of-service restrictions or other safety regulations, that is coercion,” said FMCSA acting administrator Scott Darling. “No commercial driver should ever feel compelled to bypass important federal safety regulations and potentially endanger the lives of all travelers on the road.”

    While formulating the Rule FMCSA heard from drivers who reported being pressured to violate federal safety regulations with threats of job termination, denial of subsequent trips or loads, reduced pay, forfeiture of favourable work hours or transportation jobs.

    The Final Rule takes effect 60 days following its publication in the Federal Register.

    For more information on what constitutes coercion and how to submit a complaint to FMCSA click here:

    You can read a copy of the Federal Register announcement, here:
  13. Blood

    Blood Driveler Emeritus Supporter

    Thanks for the heads up.
    I only skimmed it so far but it's obvious that this is a companion rule to the ELD mandate intended (due for publication on the same day) to quash any objection on the basis of driver harassment. The feds will attempt to suppress legal challenges on the basis that harassment or coercion is forbidden under a different rule and therefore not relevant to the ELD mandate.
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  14. Tazz

    Tazz Infidel Supporter

    Been a rule on the books about it forever. 392.3 but a government lawyer let them cost us a whole new study and rules expense.

    Anyone that thinks ELD's are used more to harass drivers than the good old days of "well tear the =$/÷^!^#& page out the customer wants their load" needs more or less drugs.
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  15. Duck

    Duck Quack Supporter

    It wouldn't surprise me one bit if dispatchers are *****ing at elog drivers if they shut down with an hour left on the clock, late at night when you're lucky to find a spot.

    So what if the load is on time? They need an opportunity to use the word "utilization" in a sentence. If they don't say it to at least one driver per day, the operations manager will shoot a puppy.
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  16. Duck

    Duck Quack Supporter

    How about this..

    "You're got enough hours to make it up to (insert name of crime infested **** hole) but this other guy doesn't, so we're going to have you two switch trailers & he'll take that gravy load you've already done all the planning for... "
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  17. Tazz

    Tazz Infidel Supporter

    No more or less than the infamous "Well everyone else does 4 rounds a day"

    Testimony in the Crete investigation when the driver was instructed to falsify his logs.

    Companies always want their trucks running, and absolutely have the right to let drivers that can not keep up go. What they can not do is force you to do it. You have the key, it is your set forth in two different rules now.
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  18. Southern Fried

    Southern Fried Well-Known Member

    Now that's a joke son. :biglaugh:The goobermint is going to side with a little peon truck driver against ATA and their other main "contributors".

    Stoppit, you're making my tummy hurt.:rolllaugh:
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  19. Rasar

    Rasar Well-Known Member

    I think it's time to go out of business

    WASHINGTON, D.C. – The US Department of Transportation’s Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) today announced a final rule that will improve roadway safety by requiring the use of electronic logging devices (ELDs) across the commercial truck and bus industries.

    “Since 1938, complex, on-duty/off-duty logs for truck and bus drivers were made with pencil and paper, virtually impossible to verify,” said US transportation secretary Anthony Foxx. “This automated technology not only brings logging records into the modern age, it also allows roadside safety inspectors to unmask violations of federal law that put lives at risk.”

    According to the FMCSA, requiring the use of electronic logging devices (ELD) will result in an annual net benefit of more than $1 billion – largely by reducing the amount of required industry paperwork. It will also increase the efficiency of roadside law enforcement personnel in reviewing driver records, the FMCSA said. It is also estimated that the final rule save 26 lives and prevent 562 injuries resulting from crashes involving large commercial motor vehicles on an annual basis.

    Reports say the official rules are set to be published on December 11. It will take effect two years afterwards and require Canadian and Mexican domiciled drivers to use the devices on US roads.

    “This is a win for all motorists on our nation’s roadways,” said FMCSA acting administrator Scott Darling. “Employing technology to ensure that commercial drivers comply with federal hours-of-service rules will prevent crashes and save lives.”

    The four main elements of the ELD Final Rule include:

    • Requiring commercial truck and bus drivers who currently use paper log books to maintain hours-of-service records to adopt ELDs within two years. It is anticipated that approximately three million drivers will be impacted.
    • Strictly prohibiting commercial driver harassment. The Final Rule provides both procedural and technical provisions designed to protect commercial truck and bus drivers from harassment resulting from information generated by ELDs.
    • Setting technology specifications detailing performance and design requirements for ELDs so that manufacturers are able to produce compliant devices and systems – and purchasers are enabled to make informed decisions.
    • Establishing new hours-of-service supporting document (shipping documents, fuel purchase receipts, etc.) requirements that will result in additional paperwork reductions. In most cases, a motor carrier would not be required to retain supporting documents verifying on-duty driving time.
    The FMCSA relied on input from its Motor Carrier Safety Advisory Committee when developing the final rule.

    You can read a copy of the ELD Final Rule here:
  20. Blood

    Blood Driveler Emeritus Supporter

    Thanks for the heads up.

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