Food Safety Modernization Act

Sinister

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#41
You would think with the packaging industry in this country wrapping everything in vacuum sealed craziness, further steps wouldn't be all that necessary.
 

Injun

Rabid Squaw
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#44
Just a bunch of Washington beurowcrats trying to solve a problem that was not there.
If you'd seen half of what I have, you wouldn't think that. Drivers turning the cooling unit off to save fuel or because they don't want to hear it....and times I've been in line for a washout and walked past somenbody's trailer that dripped blood and goo out the back with a stench that literally made me vomit...and I don't have a soft stomach.

The stuff they haul goes on my table and they're not smart enough to maintain a safe temperature or cleanliness level. I, personally, don't think this goes far enough. Operators should be heavily fined if they deliver a poorly maintained load and go to jail if somebody gets sick because of their negligence.
 

mndriver

curmudgeon extraordinare
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#45
It's not just carriers.

I have gotten my ass in a ringer for rejecting a load on the dock. You could SEE that it had been thawing for some time and the cardboard was disintegrating from the moisture. Talk about a nightmare. I refused to let it go on my truck.

I've seen the same results at receivers as well. Frozen food going onto 80*+ docks.

Had brokers BEG me to take a load of chemicals for them. "Dude, would you put it in YOUR refrigerator with the food you have to eat for supper?" "Uh, no I wouldn't."......

Then what makes you think that **** should go on MY truck.

You want to haul food, I think it needs to be in a trailer 8 years or newer.

considering using something like this in the coming time.
@JunkYardDog5958
 

Injun

Rabid Squaw
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#46
It's not just carriers.

I have gotten my ass in a ringer for rejecting a load on the dock. You could SEE that it had been thawing for some time and the cardboard was disintegrating from the moisture. Talk about a nightmare. I refused to let it go on my truck.

I've seen the same results at receivers as well. Frozen food going onto 80*+ docks.

Had brokers BEG me to take a load of chemicals for them. "Dude, would you put it in YOUR refrigerator with the food you have to eat for supper?" "Uh, no I wouldn't."......

Then what makes you think that **** should go on MY truck.

You want to haul food, I think it needs to be in a trailer 8 years or newer.

considering using something like this in the coming time.
@JunkYardDog5958
Most of the loads I haul into the DC have tempa-tattlers in them.
 

mndriver

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#47
Most of the loads I haul into the DC have tempa-tattlers in them.
I'm looking at getting them. I can find some single use stuff. But looking for more constant cold chain management purpose.


It's going to come down to providing additional services for little or nothing.

Location and temp tracking seem to be on everyone's focus.
 

ironpony

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#48
Location and temp tracking seem to be on everyone's focus.
We already do that... switched from reporting to the cab to satellite tracking because of the intermodal units. Shippers still put temp monitors in the trailers, but the satellite gizmo reports mode, temperature and hardware faults back to the dispatch computer system. We get automated messages from the computer via the AC terminal when it figures something is AFU.

Really annoying when the dang computer is the part that's AFU.

:mad:

Really handy when something stupid is broke, and they can download a setting change to bypass the mechanical moronic idioticy.
 
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mndriver

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#49
Yeop. And because one company might provide it, or a shipper/customer demands it, they are making it mandatory across the board.
 

Duck

Quack
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#54
What if your trailer was only a 45 footer... How many loads would you get?

You can't haul for Tyson or Sysco without a link between the carrier's Qualcomm and their "traffic" offices. When you arrive at receiver and send that arrival message to Prime, Tyson gets it too. And your daily check calls if you actually bother to send them. (I don't).

Get with the newest nerd tech or get left behind, whether you like it or not. Basically what MN is saying. Predicting the temp tracking will eventually be an industry requirement like 53', 13'6" trailers even if not government mandated.
 

ironpony

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#55
What if your trailer was only a 45 footer... How many loads would you get?
Lots! The shippers would be awesome by my audacity.

:D

You can't haul for Tyson or Sysco without a link between the carrier's Qualcomm and their "traffic" offices. When you arrive at receiver and send that arrival message to Prime, Tyson gets it too.
:couch:

And your daily check calls if you actually bother to send them. (I don't).
What part of the stone age are you stuck in anyway?

As I recall, the only truck you've driven recently is a mufflerless 4 wheeler. Or are you gainfully employed of late?

Get with the newest nerd tech or get left behind, whether you like it or not. Basically what MN is saying. Predicting the temp tracking will eventually be an industry requirement like 53', 13'6" trailers even if not government mandated.
OK dad. :thefinger::thefinger:
 

Brian Junior

Well-Known Member
#59
The reg puts that stuff on the carrier. You still have ta work off some of those raviolis.

:D

They talk about turning off the reefer when in the dock. Prime has always harped on their drivers to do that, and puts reefer interlock switches on the doors.

In hot weather, the reefer air intake will draw hot outside air in along the trailer floor. You can get the bottom layer of an ice cream load to start melting.
As for me - I always shut the unit down while loaded/unloaded. Except the client asks me to keep it turned on.
Yep it is a bit of fuel waste. And yes sometimes it is better for the load if the unit is turned off.
 

Brian Junior

Well-Known Member
#60
The warehouse for the plant puts in those tattlers and a GPS thingy for the pharmaceutical loads. They need to maintain temp and they are expensive and also high value loads.
Worked with the sensors twice - it helped to fix a problem in my trailers insulation.