It's actually bad ettiquette to do so. Usually you'll notice the guy whose bragging is outnumbered by four more guys shaking thier heads quietly. There's a reason for that. It used to be really taboo to talk so openly about revenue. At my company, it pretty much still is. Terry, right now you have all the experience you'd need to get your own stepdeck and go someplace else, and do better. ATS is renown for having cheap rates. Plenty of freight...but cheap rates. That's why I went there. Where I was there was NO freight. There aren't many people with only 3 years in that have a paid for truck, and however you got it, that's a real feather in your cap and a testament to your success, no matter what company it happened at. And yes, more often than not, even after all those expenses brokering off the sureway board is often better than being in the lease program. Your situation might differ, given that you now have a 7 in your truck number, but you'll often hear that the sureway board pays better than the lease program. That's true. ATS structures stuff for their own people so that they barely squeak by, almost every time. You literally have to move into your truck, and stay there for far longer than you would have to at almost ANY other company. So all those accessorial pays may or may NOT be passed on to you, and unless you're on percentage, and challenge them, you'd never know! Then, they tell you you'll come out the same as anywhere else after permits and escorts, and I tend to even disbelieve that! So yes, ATS often pays outside carriers more than their own people. Oh, sure, you can bounce home from everywhere, and it's your dime, but every time I went home for even a day, I got hammered for two weeks afterward. More and more, I think I let my FM think I was a pushover with that first load, and stamped myself that way the whole year. In talking to you, it seems like you had access and offers to MUCH better freight. I didn't see my first Canadian load offer until the very last week I was there. I saw TWO NYC OD granite loads on my way back out of Canada, and I'd pulled a bunch of granite before that and never saw that type of stuff! You shouldn't have to live in your truck that much.