NO idling in california

[IIronman]

It is too much air polution.. SOO with all the fires burning..can we sue them?? It will polute too much!!Don't get me wong I feel bad for the people but it sure is an irony

[Grinder]

Anyone that builds in the hills where there is a known fire danger deserves what they get. How stupid can people be? It's like building on a flood plain. It's common sense. Stupidity should be painful.

[freightmaster]

Maybe they are a bunch of hypocrites?

Hypocrisy (or the state of being a hypocrite) is the act of preaching a certain belief or way of life, but not, in fact, holding these same virtues oneself. For example, a teacher telling students they should not plagiarize, while secretly being a plagiarist himself. Hypocrisy is frequently invoked as an accusation in many contexts.

Hypocrisy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Dadees]

I can't believe this one if a trucker can't sleep during there down time then how is the driver going to be safe on the road. I think this is more dangerous.........

[lunachic]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadees I can't believe this one if a trucker can't sleep during there down time then how is the driver going to be safe on the road. I think this is more dangerous.........

It is but know one speaks up from that State.
About anything,
Driver's People of calif. you are so chicken S**T.
Guess people r scared, terminator or something might show up.

[ironmanwife]

OMG..just heard on the news now they want to ban helium balloons..these people are abs. NUTS

[lunachic]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironmanwife OMG..just heard on the news now they want to ban helium balloons..these people are abs. NUTS

did the people reporting talk in a funny voice?
guess this is the outcome when a actor runs a state.....think they would have learned when one ran the country.

[ironmanwife]

California Targets New Menace: Helium-Filled Foil Balloons - WSJ.com

[Bullwinkle]

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunachic Driver's People of calif. you are so chicken S**T.

The drivers that suffer from this aren't the California based drivers, it is the drivers from other States bring product in. It is those people who are stuck with the layovers in the State for the most part.

I won't call any driver a chicken shit for following these rules, as I understand the difficulties that come with standing up against ignorant rules like this, but if anybody is going to call drivers "chicken shit", that term "chicken shit" needs to be directed toward anybody that drives into that State, as they are the ones who are submitting to these rules.

[lunachic]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullwinkle The drivers that suffer from this aren't the California based drivers, it is the drivers from other States bring product in. It is those people who are stuck with the layovers in the State for the most part. I won't call any driver a chicken shit for following these rules, as I understand the difficulties that come with standing up against ignorant rules like this, but if anybody is going to call drivers "chicken shit", that term "chicken shit" needs to be directed toward anybody that drives into that State, as they are the ones who are submitting to these rules.

mine is turning down everyload, unless they pay in advance for a motel room, now we might not be indep. anymore but we still own the truck. and they don't want to pay and he wont go.
I realize a company driver does not have this option, but as bad as the smoke heat ect....if you must go into the state call 911, and or company have them take you to the nearest hospital.If you feel sick from what you are being subjected to.
Your health is at risk, Don't be a hero.
It is Job related,And make sure everything is doc. and report it.

[lunachic]

calling O.S.H.A.
remember for every law that stands, there is one to counter.
The know idling law, athough pertains the the state in whole, does not take into concideration the unsafe working conditions or health and safety violations of the drivers.
1-800-321-6742, If they persist I feel under these law's the state should be held liable and provide safe parking with sleeping arrangements.
And or do to the fact that the General trucker cannot afford to upgrade as the compaines that the Gov. does Sub. Voucher's to bring the trucks up to Calif. standards should be issued.

[lunachic]

I'm on hold they don't know how to answer me,

oh boy, this is fun..............

They can't help would like too, many call's coming in on this.
need to call D.O.T.Fed. Motor Carriers. They over ride them
Health & Safety.
was told alot of driver's can't handle the winter cold either.
The number is 1-888-386-7238

[BANDIT]

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunachic I'm on hold they don't know how to answer me, oh boy, this is fun.............. They can't help would like too, many call's coming in on this. need to call D.O.T.Fed. Motor Carriers. They over ride them Health & Safety. was told alot of driver's can't handle the winter cold either. The number is 1-888-386-7238

Great idea Luna......Go Get Um Girl ! !

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunachic I'm on hold they don't know how to answer me, oh boy, this is fun.............. They can't help would like too, many call's coming in on this. need to call D.O.T.Fed. Motor Carriers. They over ride them Health & Safety. was told alot of driver's can't handle the winter cold either. The number is 1-888-386-7238

Look out, cause Luna is on a mission. Give em Hell hun.

[lunachic]

talk about b.s. and passing the buck......
What I need and found out and what not to use as a example.
S.S. I know you are busy right now, so when you have the time can you please write a Formal letter under your heading in triplcate too: 1 to each......
Federal Motor Carrier/Safety Administration
1200 new Jersey ave. S.E.
washington D.C. 20590

To All involved and concern.
We the people in the Truck driving industry would like to file a formal complaint agaisnt the State Of Calif.
to all above You make the rules and require us to abide by them,
which in doing so you by ca. no idle law is putting the risk of life and limb of truck driver's and the general population of your state in danger.
10 hours in a sleeper with out air nor heat in the winter.
Do you think they are rested and fully capable of operating a motor carrier of g.v.w. of 80,000.00 pounds. after not being able to sleep.
something to this effect, just don't use it could be your family that's meets up with one, they don't like to hear that.
sign it as a group, or a bunch of groups.
and if you can please e-mail me one so I can forward it to newspaper in Ca.

O.S.H.A.
200 Constitution Ave
washington D.C. 20210

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, ca. 95814

Thank-you

[SilverSurfer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunachic talk about b.s. and passing the buck...... What I need and found out and what not to use as a example. S.S. I know you are busy right now, so when you have the time can you please write a Formal letter under your heading in triplcate too: 1 to each...... Federal Motor Carrier/Safety Administration 1200 new Jersey ave. S.E. washington D.C. 20590 To All involved and concern. We the people in the Truck driving industry would like to file a formal complaint agaisnt the State Of Calif. to all above You make the rules and require us to abide by them, which in doing so you by ca. no idle law is putting the risk of life and limb of truck driver's and the general population of your state in danger. 10 hours in a sleeper with out air nor heat in the winter. Do you think they are rested and fully capable of operating a motor carrier of g.v.w. of 80,000.00 pounds. after not being able to sleep. something to this effect, just don't use it could be your family that's meets up with one, they don't like to hear that. sign it as a group, or a bunch of groups. and if you can please e-mail me one so I can forward it to newspaper in Ca. O.S.H.A. 200 Constitution Ave washington D.C. 20210 Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger State Capitol Building Sacramento, ca. 95814 Thank-you

This is an excellent idea. I'll start working on something this evening. Need to update my main site and research/publish articles on the community first...then put some time into the flyer. I think I can create something you'll be satisfied with.

Luna...I really like this attack. I think it definitely has some potential.

-ss-

[lunachic]

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer This is an excellent idea. I'll start working on something this evening. Need to update my main site and research/publish articles on the community first...then put some time into the flyer. I think I can create something you'll be satisfied with. Luna...I really like this attack. I think it definitely has some potential. -ss-

thank-u, calling it a early night, to much phone's today...lol