usa truckers uniting

[gearjammer]

ok I have watched as the unity that we had in the first four months of this year pretty well degenerate into a bunch of disorganized ranting and raving.

I have a plan but first I need to know if the people reading this are serious or just talking to say something.


a few rules,
1 if you answer this thread don't get long winded, an answer like I am in,
or I am out is all that is needed.

2. if you choose to be in remember everyone has different opinions and ideas,the one thing we do all agree on is something needs to be done and some kind of show of unity is desperately needed so no flaming or badmouthing of other members!!!!!

2. NO OFF TOPIC ANSWERS, stay on topic, I ask Bullwinkle here that if any answers go off topic that you delete them.

now, lets see if we have the support here to actually start something or if we are all just spinning our wheels.

[rebel]

In.

[SilverSurfer]

In.

[lunachic]

ok.

[rebel]

I too, would like to hear your plan, but if I read your post correctly;
I agree to keep it short, to offer helpful suggestions and disagree areeably.
so far, so good - yes

[Bullwinkle]

Cleaned thread up to this point

My post = Yes

More detailed information will come soon enough for those asking, the main thing here is to see if there is a large enough group willing to get involved. You can decide 100% if you are going to truly be a part once the full guidelines are put together and announced

[BANDIT]

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I only have One question......If there is no censorship on this forum, why have all the posts on this thread that question the plan and what the organization is going to entail been conveniently removed, and all the YES votes left here? Just wondering, cause it looks alot like personal censorship to me. I don't recall reading anything at all derogatory in any of the posts or anything insulting to anyone in the community. Why were they deleted?

[BANDIT]

Just to clarify my previous post that was removed, I feel I have the right to be given an explanation about whatever it is that I'm being asked to commit myself to before I make a commitment. I commited to the last FIGHT, spending alot of my time and my money just to have the whole thing blown apart by too many outside peoples' disruptions. Just tell me what's on your mind and I'll either commit or not commit. Is that asking too much?

[Bullwinkle]

Quote:

Originally Posted by BANDIT ____________________________ Why were they deleted?

They were deleted because Gearjammer requested that I made sure that only yes and no answers were in this thread, and that anything else was removed. Don't believe me, ask him.

In the future, please PM me about your concerns rather than clogging up a good thread with your complaining. I will be happy to tell you why I did something

Now, lets once again get back on course with this thread.

[BANDIT]

Thanks for the perfectly clear explanation..... & Jammer, I'm truly sorry if my "constant complaining" messed up your thread, I appologize.

[gearjammer]

sorry bullwinkle, I should have let everyone know that I ask you to keep this thread strictly on track I didn't mean for you to take the heat like that.

folks this is a business with serious problems, there are ways to address them but what has been tried so far just hasn't worked.

if you look at the threads that talk about these problems you can see part of the problem occur because the conversations invariably get so far off the point that they become useless and are doing more harm than good to uniting US in a common cause.

while I am on the subject you folks have got to lighten up on the people posting information and ideas a bit, we are all human and have our own ideas but we all have COMMON problems that we need to stand up side by side and address!!

I am not bragging or tooting my own horn but am using my experiences to illustrate what I am talking about;

While I didn't like the date set for the 4/1 shutdown, I saw that it had some potential and shut down for 8 days, in that time I was thrown out of one truck stop, my truck was egged, I ended up spending several hundred bucks and lost seveal thousand in revenue, even though I was against some of the finer points of the plan I ageed with the concept and saw that it could bring attention to the industry problems.

I was unsure of the support that the trucking community would give to the D/C protest but went anyhow, because it was the RIGHT THING TO DO!!

there has been a lot of good ideas thrown out here and elsewhere,
but the bickering and inability to keep on task and on track has defeated them all.

now that I have seen the need to say more than I was going to just let me say that I have a plan to address the problems that keep us from doing what needs to be done, but until I see at least a core group people dedicated to fixing the problems in this industry i am not going to waste any more of my time,energy or money,

you all are acting like you are waiting on someone else to fix YOUR problems, well boys and girls you had better wake up soon and figure out that you have to fix YOUR problems yourself.

other countries have and ARE doing it and I see no reason why we cannot do it too!!!

there have been a lot of people looking at this thread but only a few that have taken the time to say yes,no or kiss my ass, what is with this are you all seriously watching you pay go down while your expenses go up and are willing to just let it happen? where is the American spirit, and the truckers spirit that says that a wrong will not go unrighted???

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

I think you will get more responses if you tell people what you have in mind, people generally don't like to committ to something, if they don't know what their committing to.

[truckers2unite]

i speak for thousands if the plan is a good one we will support it also
jammer i think we have gotten a lot accomplished in all the things that have been happening so far but what is your plan of action here i am listening
remember we don't want to do anything to piss off joe public or our reps will go down the drain even farther

[gearjammer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TN. TRUCKERS WIFE I think you will get more responses if you tell people what you have in mind, people generally don't like to committ to something, if they don't know what their committing to.

at this point I am not asking for anyone to commit to anything yet I was wanting to know if there are enough people still willing to even try if the opportunity presented itsely.

my thoughts are along the line of a longer term, more concerted plan that has organization, and order and backing from those involved before anything is tried that will make the politicians take notice.

just some of the problem in this industry[ and there are many] have actually been resolved?

the Mexican trucker program is still going on
the rates are still stuck in the early "90s"
the brokers are still screwing with the fuel surcharges, and while the TRUCC act was introduced it is stalled in committee where i suspect it will end up dying
more and more stated fail to realize the anti idling policies they are enacting are a danger to the people that drive for a living
and the biggest problem of all is the failure to unify the truckers themselves there are many small groups all trying to do something and none are big enough to get much more than a 30 spot on some local news stations
and the list goes on and on and the only thing that we are getting for our efforts if we get anything at all is some feel good words that do nothing.

you want to know what my plan is, well it isn't business as usual
one of the most important aspects is how to UNITE the small groups and coordinate a plan of action

[freightmaster]

in

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

Honey you come up with a plan and count me in.

[beeble736]

Hell yeah I'm in. Not sure what kind of contribution I can make with my life in turmoil right now, but you know I'm in for the long haul (that's a joke son!)

Bea

[Jimmy]

has this gone anywhere yet? I am on board with wanting to see things changed, and would love to see the plan here.

[gearjammer]

sorry jimmy,
from the lack of response to this I am going to pass for now.

perhaps this winter when things are slow people will realize that they need to unite and commit to change for the better,

with only 6 or 7 people even responding its obvious that the time and money would be wasted at this time.

[BANDIT]

Has anyone seen or heard anything at all about the "big March" on Washington, DC that was supposed to take place today? I thought someone, somewhere, said it would be a comparison to the Million Man March....I watched CNN & Fox News a good part of the day and I haven't heard or seen one thing about any march at all. Not on Washington or anywhere else. What happened?