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Old 07-02-2008   #1
    $0.14 kWh Electricity = $1.90 diesel
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I'm trying to do an analysis on the cost savings for an electric powered semi truck. There is a new type of battery coming from EEStor that should make this viable, but I have no idea what the operating specifications for an electrically powered semi should be.

Here are what I've assumed (really just guessed) is workable:
  • 180,000 miles per year
  • 450 mile range per charge (is this to short?)
  • battery weight adds 4700 lbs
  • diesel averaging around $5 for the next 4 years
Here is a link to a spreadsheet semi-conversion analysis that details the cost and savings but in a nutshell running on electricity would be the same as $1.90 for diesel.
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Looks like you are on the right track...
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I'm trying to do an analysis on the cost savings for an electric powered semi truck. There is a new type of battery coming from EEStor that should make this viable, but I have no idea what the operating specifications for an electrically powered semi should be.


Here are what I've assumed (really just guessed) is workable:
  • 180,000 miles per year
  • 450 mile range per charge (is this to short?)
  • battery weight adds 4700 lbs
  • diesel averaging around $5 for the next 4 years
Here is a link to a spreadsheet semi-conversion analysis that details the cost and savings but in a nutshell running on electricity would be the same as $1.90 for diesel.
If you'll go to "In the news" thread post #234 I've got a link to EEStor.
It's actually a new supercapacitor instead of battery. The idea is to eliminate batteries and store power in capacitor (which is what they do) the trick is to store and then draw out power at rate needed by motor. They claim to have done this by using different mat'l and assembly process. I simplified to spare you boring details but if it works-we're done with most ICEs.
On a related note China I think has been using similiar system for a year to run city buses. Not efficient for OTR trucks but they don't have EEStor.
I don't have site for these buses handy but I'll go back and try to find. I think I googled capacitors and stumbled upon it.(insert joke here)
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Ok Electric double-layer capacitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediahere it is
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Look at the bottom under Transportation application.
I know I'm a little sloppy at this stuff
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Super Capacitors and Ultracapacitors - New Super Battery for ...


Don't know if you've seen this, Toyota has a diesel converted now
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Thanks for all the info but I'm already up to speed on the Ultracapacitor technology. I'm actually one of the contributors at the EEStor wikipedia site.

What I need help with are the performance requirements for a truck that will make money. Things like range per charge, time to recharge, miles per year, max payback time for the cost of converting to EV, etc.
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Consider where you will have to recharge the truck. It will be a controlled point such as a truck stop. There is no doubt, there will be a massive charge to use the electricity which will change your calculation.
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