lets set a date

[Greyfoxx]

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Originally Posted by lunachic Ok, u seem to know so much about trucking, u handle it. I read ur profile, ur a white collar pencil pusher. And maybe ur wife will take that from u but I wont. Get It!!!!!!!!!!! swallow good-buddy

Here we go again.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by 4x4 I have never said I know anything about The trucking Industry and I dont, however I know who to talk to I know Unions, I know Politics, remember this goes beyond the Trucking Industry... This encompasses a whole nation In every aspect of life. what I said wasnt meant to be personal however like someothers that have also said it too its time to act and not just sit behind a Screen. My plans this week alone are to go to 4 Community Board Meetings, as well as 2 chamber of Commerce Meetings to educate the American Citizens On whats going on there all mad now its time to act on it., As well help TACU with the Food drive. and coordinate the next protest on Harrisburg for the end of June, and have things ready for June 19th when we take this Protest to Albany, NY...

what do u people think, It's just about you.
This I belive is a trucker forum.
If You know nothing about the trucking industry, what are you trying to sell?
I cant speak for anyone else but I will for me.
What it is about is trucking, not your community meetings, food drives or what you know about unions..........................................
None of the above has nothing to do with Trucking.
what you are doing is using the issue we are dealing with to your benifit.
That's why nothing has been done....................................

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle Bandit, what you are saying about NYC really applies to just about everywhere now. Grocery stores have he largest supply, via there warehousing, but for the most part, stored depend on multiple deliveries every week. With a shutdown, you may not shut down the foodservice industry workers, but those workers are dependent on the product getting to them before they can distribute it to their customers. I also think it is very important to stick with the boycotts at the same time a shutdown is being planned. Just because a shutdown is going to be planned, doesn't mean work stops on the boycotts. I would actually recommend that the current boycott of exxon be pushed forward to include all the big oil companies who are getting fat on middle east oil. I think if you push an effort to go after all of them, you are going to get more overall support from the Country. Back to the shutdown: Right now we have TACU behind the date, and we have TACU giving us the word that Dan Little has US Cattlehaulers behind it as well. We have The American Driver considering it, but not yet behind it. When and if we get all three on board, and when a good plan is posted, I will put together a thread, stick it, and send out a newsletter here.

It seems that this will be the date then. I personally have a little apprehension about the possible alienation of American citizens, but I must agree, out of common sense, this may be the only way to go about it. Since this is agreed by many...The American Driver will support y'all with whatever we can do. We'll be behind ya 100%, with the only reservation of caution on our part as to information being presented. I only want to be clear with everyone, The American Driver has been down this road with Mark...we're not saying we won't make this journey again, only we'll be making it with caution on our part.

I will point out to all here outside of Mark...he is still in a defensive mode, and still making statements of my inability to effect change from behind this screen and that I must get out to get anything done. I flew to D.C., participated in a convoy that travelled at speeds of up to 65mph (this I couldn't believe,) pulled a buggy for 3+ miles, stood in the rain while everyone else went inside (instructed by the police someone had to stay with the buggy,) spoke with Sen. Sessions, developed a relationship with his legislative assistant. I have developed relationships with not only hundreds of individuals across our nation, but from other countries has well from behind this screen. I have developed relationships with many government officials and state officials from behind this screen, as well as a few movers and shakers. And whether some of us continue to refuse to think the internet is not a very important tool in our endeavor, I for one will continue with my efforts from behind this screen. Give me and my brother reason to be somewhere, and we'll be there...we've proven this time and again. I think it's time to stop with the statements about my abilities and commitment (or anyone's ability and commitment - even if it's from behind a screen,) and start to get something positive done. I will not lie to anyone here - I have major concerns with Mark, but I also have no problems with supporting anyone...including the PA group...to get something done. Also, so no one thinks I'm being antagenistic with Mark, I use the phrase "PA group" for a reason. I mean no disrespect, but issues are developing over that title with Citizens United.

Moose...I agree with the statement you make about the boycott. This is an action which began with the reason to bring big oil around to getting something done, and I believe it should continue until big oil gets something done - or goes bankrupt (lol). It should remain as a seperate action.

-ss-

[Greyfoxx]

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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle Bandit, what you are saying about NYC really applies to just about everywhere now. Grocery stores have he largest supply, via there warehousing, but for the most part, stored depend on multiple deliveries every week. With a shutdown, you may not shut down the foodservice industry workers, but those workers are dependent on the product getting to them before they can distribute it to their customers. I also think it is very important to stick with the boycotts at the same time a shutdown is being planned. Just because a shutdown is going to be planned, doesn't mean work stops on the boycotts. I would actually recommend that the current boycott of exxon be pushed forward to include all the big oil companies who are getting fat on middle east oil. I think if you push an effort to go after all of them, you are going to get more overall support from the Country. Back to the shutdown: Right now we have TACU behind the date, and we have TACU giving us the word that Dan Little has US Cattlehaulers behind it as well. We have The American Driver considering it, but not yet behind it. When and if we get all three on board, and when a good plan is posted, I will put together a thread, stick it, and send out a newsletter here.

Boycotting all Big Oil companies is not a good idea. ExxonMobil is everywhere, the others are not. Adding all Big Oil means asking those who are dedicated to the boycott and those just on the edge to drive, in some cases, for miles in to find a station that is not "Big Oil", is not going to play well. You asking people to think, and people these days have enough to think about. Although the Oil Slicks are all bastards most people are going still have to get to work or to grandma house. We have EXXONMobil as focal point that everyone hates, they have someone to take the anger out on someone. When you start asking people to boycott all Big Oil companies your going to have people who going to jump ship. Just getting enough people to just the EXXON MOBIL Boycott is going to be a challenge in itself. Look at the feeble number of people copying the Boycott signs, or even looking at them.

Exxon / Mobil Gas Boycott (2006 - 2008) - Netlore Archive

[4x4]

Lunachic, Once Again i point out this isnt only a Trucking issue, This is an American issue and your resentment towards the American Citizen and all your Negative accusations towards this whole movement wondering...
I dont understand why you think we are out for something, well in part your right we are fighting for Lower fuel Costs however I am not in it for Myself However Im in it for the American way of Life.I will stand up and fight for Americans, I will fight for my freedoms and My right to Be heard on this board on any board I deem fit.
Until these issues are resolved im not going anywhere and yes by the way im fighting For Trucking issues too, The TRUCC Act, I 80 Toll Issues in PA and the TMT in NY as well....If you dont have the American people behind you, you are not going to get anything Done...

The OOU is behind this, TACU is Behind this, and the American Driver is doing what they Do best....

[truckers2unite]

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Originally Posted by lunachic what do u people think, It's just about you. This I belive is a trucker forum. If You know nothing about the trucking industry, what are you trying to sell? I cant speak for anyone else but I will for me. What it is about is trucking, not your community meetings, food drives or what you know about unions.......................................... None of the above has nothing to do with Trucking. what you are doing is using the issue we are dealing with to your benifit. That's why nothing has been done....................................

and you my friend are a typical trucker that can't agree with anyone and wants to run off the general public persons that are way more powerful then the damn truck drivers!!!
you my friend better step back and look in a mirror and figure out what you are saying before you say it
we have 3 to 1 citizens support compared to drivers support and you are trying to run them off??? you my friend needs to check yourself
and fred if it weren't for the "pa group" you wouldn't have flown to pa for the dc trip ( cause with out us it wouldn't have happened)nor would your bro had done anything to pick you up also who else met with sessions?? you know what this isn't getting anything done we all need to unite and sever our differences at least for now and get shit done
from what i remember the webmaster of our site that you booted from your site using my trademarked name picked you up and ran you back to the airport hmmm.

[truckers2unite]

ok here's how i work we set things up and go for it so we are having a big thing tomorrow and if we say its the right date and time we will continue with the shutdown cause we will never get all people to agree anyway
there are leaders and followers i for one am a leader and with pa and ny involved we can shut down the whole east coast weather you like it or not
nothing to new england states and nothing passes through pa
so after tomorrow we will let you know what TACU IS DOING and you either support it or you don't but remember we are some rednecked mofo's here and we don't take shit!!!

[gearjammer]

just to keep things moving along I would think that the next step in this would be to set down exactly what we want to accomplish with a shutdown, much has been made of the fact that no one had a clear agenda in any of the other tries at a shutdown

As there are a lot of different ideas of what needs done to right the wrongs I would suggest that we as a group come up with a SHORT!!!! list,say 4 or 5 demands at the most and make it things that can truely be done.

A few of my thoughts are;
First on the list should be passage of the TRUCC act!

quick passage of or repeal of laws that are stopping exploration and drilling of oil,building of refineries and nuke plants

STOP the Mexican trucks from operating in the U.S.

Also Bullwinkle since you are the only one that can do it I also would like to suggest that a new thread be started and unlike the other threads on here you need to rule it with an iron hand if it goes off subject please delete the offending threads, also do not let the slightest squabble of fight start again delete em, also I think any negative posts should be deleted from that particular thread if "it can't be done" or 'it won't work' is in the post delete em there are plenty of other threads that this kind of stuff can be aired out but we need ONE thread that is on topic, and with a positive attitude,

PEOPLE the only way this will be successful is if we ALL stay focused on the goal

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by truckers2unite and you my friend are a typical trucker that can't agree with anyone and wants to run off the general public persons that are way more powerful then the damn truck drivers!!! you my friend better step back and look in a mirror and figure out what you are saying before you say it we have 3 to 1 citizens support compared to drivers support and you are trying to run them off??? you my friend needs to check yourself and fred if it weren't for the "pa group" you wouldn't have flown to pa for the dc trip ( cause with out us it wouldn't have happened)nor would your bro had done anything to pick you up also who else met with sessions?? you know what this isn't getting anything done we all need to unite and sever our differences at least for now and get shit done from what i remember the webmaster of our site that you booted from your site using my trademarked name picked you up and ran you back to the airport hmmm.

And so I say again, what are you talking about?
I dont know bro, I dont know fred, never went to
Pa. never even knew of your site.except what you p.m. me. I saved it would you like me to remind you of it?
But I will tell u this who ever 4x4 belongs to,
some one needs to teach him how to curb his mouth, If he is with you, You dont like my reply to him. Well read his post, Then get over it.
Like I said in my reply, maybe his wife will take it,
but I wont!

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by 4x4 Lunachic, Once Again i point out this isnt only a Trucking issue, This is an American issue and your resentment towards the American Citizen and all your Negative accusations towards this whole movement wondering... I dont understand why you think we are out for something, well in part your right we are fighting for Lower fuel Costs however I am not in it for Myself However Im in it for the American way of Life.I will stand up and fight for Americans, I will fight for my freedoms and My right to Be heard on this board on any board I deem fit. Until these issues are resolved im not going anywhere and yes by the way im fighting For Trucking issues too, The TRUCC Act, I 80 Toll Issues in PA and the TMT in NY as well....If you dont have the American people behind you, you are not going to get anything Done... The OOU is behind this, TACU is Behind this, and the American Driver is doing what they Do best....

And once again, know one is asking you to go anywhere.
but everyone has the right to agree or not.
And because I do not agree with your shut down does not in anyway imply
nagative accusations, so stop ur game.
again read my post, and point these facts as you so claim I said out to me.
I would strongly suggest that you as per your post learn about the Bill Of Rights and the Constitution of the United States Of America.
Which really makes me wonder.About you, and what your true objective is.
For if you belive in what you say you would be open to all Americans rights.
Instead of making a game out of it when someone does not agree with you.
I saw how the first shut down went. Not to good was it, 90 day's to plan another one that one would hope to be effective wont happen.
I'm from PA. talked to my cousin, They didnt even know of the boycott,
What you want to happen over night wont. For a true shut down to work will take months of planning, And on paper plans of this. Not do as you go.And lets be honest about this it is not a shut down, this is a action that can get people hurt.Who's going to lead ? You or the trucks?
And you dont know me , How many times have you given food or money out of your own pocket to the hungry, when you really dont have for your own?
How many times have you opened your door to drivers you dont even know on the Holiday's while they are stuck in a truckstop away from home.
I sat home alone during 2 hurricanes,while my husband was out working Rita then Ivan, During that time Francis and Gene hit.
Went to find food and ice for the people of our town.Did we have any know.
Know food ,know water nothing, And we put the elder and children and evryone we could ahead of us. Those who had gas cooked all the food from our freezers we delivered it .
Shared what everyone had. So dont talk shit to me about me when you dont know me. What did you do. The world knew that we were hit by 4 storms in 04. And dont tell me what the trucks made, because they did'nt. After all the people had there hands in it by the time the trucks who worked 24/7 made pay it was nothing. It was honor, drivers who cared.
So now if you want to question someone take a good look at yourself,
And I ask you, what did you do?

[rebel]

Hopefully, we can set aside our differences long enough to help our country. I do believe we ALL love America and care what's happening to her. I came here because I do care and want to help. I'm not a driver but my wife was (before she got hurt) and my grandad was till the day he died. I respect anyone that brings the food I put on my table. This fuel crisis affects everyone who drives,lives,breathes and eats on this planet.This just happens to be the front line. As far as doing something I've already said I'll spread your message along I-26 from Tenn. to S.C. I get an error when I tried to access the boycott signs but it's OK I can make my own. I'll run with you anytime or place. I understand those who are worried about feeding their families, I am too. I'm not mad at ya 'cause we all gotta do what we can or have to. For those that are ready - so am I. Let's gitter dun!