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Old 05-29-2008   #1
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only answer if you are ready to get the word out
for the best results i can see if we shut down monday august 25th
one monday before labor day
now all i want is a yes or no and i sure hope to have a bunch of pages to look through
this would give us enough time to plan get the word out and organize with all the sites if they all stick together
it will also cripple this country 1 week before the last holiday of the summer
can we hold on this long don't know must we yes we must
now how many are with me on this!!!!
i expect to see a yes or a no only on the next replies

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I agree with you, a strike is needed, but the strike would have to be at least 10 to 15 days to get anyone's attention. I know it sounds like a long time, and lost money. Let me tell you, you would get it back 10 fold. After 3 days the restaurant's are starting to hurt, after 7 days, the restaurant's are really panicking and the grocery stores are beginning to hurt, after 10 days the restaurant's are closing the grocery stores are panicking. After 15 days the grocery stores are almost out of supplies. The truck drivers in this country need to understand they run this country, without trucks America STOPS!!! If you want to put a stop to all the Crap, All the Drivers need to get enough nerves to stand up and take control back!!! Labor day is to far off, I say July 4 is a good time to start. Plan a two week vacation, or just lay around the house with your family!!
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how about we set up a poll like tn truckers wife said about this date and lets see what response we get
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too effectively do something you need at least 90 days to prepare and to get the word out there, In 60 days we can have 75% of this country , worried that a Shutdown is coming , and Im not just talking Trucks, But Ports too.everyone will be talking about it everyone will be scared they wills tart flooding calls to the state capitols to contact there politicians..
every red blooded American Needs to Stop what they are doing lets send a message to the government Lets Send a Message to the Oil Tycoons..

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I like the date.. it gives plenty of time to get organized and to spread the word. keeping up the momentum for such a long time is the hard part
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how about we set up a poll like tn truckers wife said about this date and lets see what response we get
That is the only way i will bust my butt for another strike, is to make sure truckers won't just blow it off. Sure we are fired up and ready but is everybody else?
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We get them all fired up, We stoke that fire....We Piss them all off until they are yelling...
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Everyone needs to concentrate on eliminating the word "strike" from any and all conversation and mailings. Concentrate on "shutdown". It may not seem that important, but that is one of the big arguments that constantly took place leading up to April 1. People would spend more time arguing about the word "strike" than actually paying attention to the issues.
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That is the only way i will bust my butt for another strike, is to make sure truckers won't just blow it off. Sure we are fired up and ready but is everybody else?
Bad time for o/o, If any know matter how little of a chance to stay afloat
cant be till after Aug. Everything comes due.
Need to try and work as much as possible, That trucks needs to run above all else.............................
You know I stand with you, some of these people, and not saying this in a bad way are not o/o.
We cannot do another shutdown till after aug.
Let us try to get pass all the Gov. B.S. and then call a shut down.
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The next one is really going to be tough, unless an outstanding job of "selling it" is done. By "selling it", I don't mean BS'ing people, I mean doing an excellent job of not only getting the word out, but being extremely clear about everything, including getting people to understand the importance of this shutdown, and what the plan is if enough people shutdown that we really impact things.

Many truckers don't spend much, if any, time on the internet. Many of these people shut down in April, thinking that this would be the time that the entire industry was going to unite. It didn't happen, and while good things came from it, these people aren't online to see what has been accomplished. All they seen is their truck parked, and other trucks running.

Setting a date is fine, but more importantly, the information that is going to go out talking about this shutdown needs be much better than what we had in April.

You need very descriptive flyers that let those who are not online know more than a date. They need to know what the goals are once the shutdown happens.

There needs to be a clear and concise plan in regards to how the media will be approached. You can have 1000 people out there emailing and calling the media and politicians, but unless they are all networking together and sending out the same message, it is all for nothing.

Those who are out there doing the work to promote this, and those who are serious about wanting "change" in this industry need to be prepared to see trucks running during the shutdown. When they see these trucks running, they need to avoid running to the message boards and freaking out and complaining about it. Not everyone is going to shutdown. If you start posting about how the shutdown is failing immediately after it starts, you are effectively killing any progress that was made.

Personally, I think initiating boycotts right now is a better idea that trying to accomplish a shutdown. I know some of you probably don't want to hear that, but the fact is, none of the current organizations out there are networked well enough throughout the Country to properly get the word out for a successful shutdown. At least I can't see that you are networked well enough. You need more representatives for all areas of the Country, and then you need to spend time educating these representatives on how to get the same message conveyed from each area.

I don't mean to offend anyone with this post, I am simply calling it like I see it. I said back before the April shutdown, that I didn't think it would succeed, but I felt that I needed to do all I could to try and help it be as successful as possible.

If you do indeed go forward with an August shutdown, I will once again do all I can to be supportive of it with this forum. I just don't think any of the organizations out there are ready for this.
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only answer if you are ready to get the word out
for the best results i can see if we shut down monday august 25th
one monday before labor day
now all i want is a yes or no and i sure hope to have a bunch of pages to look through
this would give us enough time to plan get the word out and organize with all the sites if they all stick together
it will also cripple this country 1 week before the last holiday of the summer
can we hold on this long don't know must we yes we must
now how many are with me on this!!!!
i expect to see a yes or a no only on the next replies

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Hate to dissapoint ya'll but I have to say no. Unless you actually get a few big companies or the teamsters to go with a shutdown, it will only hurt those that do. Simple greed will be our undoing, not our but theirs. Unions and big companies will only benifit from a shutdown as they will pick up any slack.
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I say the date is good..we would need to first bring ALL the internet sites that popped up to AGREE on One date..than we would need to bring SIrius radio to get filled in..don't matter if you like sirius or not..it is still the best way to get the word out and you can get emotions steered up better than if just writing..also the media is just reporting FACTS..so the passion gonna get sweeped under the carpet..
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now we are talkin folks, the beginnings of a REAL plan, you all figure out the date as long as we are all on the same page this time I am up for any date

on a side note you might want to check this out;
Excite News - AP IMPACT: US freight rail congestion a concern
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I believe we need a "pyramid" scheme
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I say the date is good..we would need to first bring ALL the internet sites that popped up to AGREE on One date..than we would need to bring SIrius radio to get filled in..don't matter if you like sirius or not..it is still the best way to get the word out and you can get emotions steered up better than if just writing..also the media is just reporting FACTS..so the passion gonna get sweeped under the carpet..

i have the bubba show private # also i have the steve sommers show on xm private # we can get the word out
i am also in with evin lockridge on these issues he calls me often to see whats going on too
we have the connections so lets just get some straight yes or no's and get it done!
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PS. Including ny and pa we have 45000-50000 members now we also have the md dump truck assc.(UMTA) and the coalition against high fuel prices out of maine too
that alone is another 500-1000 now we also will have you people here and at the other sites etc
plus i can get a lot more general public involved along with all of us
i truely think with that kind of time we can get a few hundred thousand people together either drivers or general people
what do you all think?????
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Everyone needs to concentrate on eliminating the word "strike" from any and all conversation and mailings. Concentrate on "shutdown". It may not seem that important, but that is one of the big arguments that constantly took place leading up to April 1. People would spend more time arguing about the word "strike" than actually paying attention to the issues.

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Right now i reserve my vote for now. Gentlemen what you can do is atleast as truckdrivers express your opinions and concerns. Please atleast SPEAK UP one way or another..
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Right now i reserve my vote for now. Gentlemen what you can do is atleast as truckdrivers express your opinions and concerns. Please atleast SPEAK UP one way or another..

YEAH RIGHT!
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I may reserve my vote for now but here is my opinion. It is a 50/50 shot. This time around if you are going to promote a shutdown you have to promote the importance of a protest, they go hand in hand. Gather in large groups, call your local media and let them know where you will be.. There will be alot of drivers sitting on the side lines waiting to see what will happen. If they see it on there local news and also happening all over the country I believe a shutdown could grow day by day and quickly. But both of these things have to be accomplished. When protesting, it dosent have to be just truckers, bring family, friends, whoever. This is what i think needs to happen to have a successful shutdown.
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