Reasons why a strike/boycott won't work

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

Silver Surfer.. Good post... And this my friends is how it should be done. A very tactful and respectful disagreement without a knock down drag out.. It is ok to disagree with someone but it should be done in the proper manner. It makes the forum much more interesting..

[rebel]

Hey I missed something here, probably just my brain cells but I can't see replies 12-20 on this thread. Is it me? My reply (#11) still has edit on the bottom. I'm sorry but I'm still computer illiterate.

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by rebel Hey I missed something here, probably just my brain cells but I can't see replies 12-20 on this thread. Is it me? My reply (#11) still has edit on the bottom. I'm sorry but I'm still computer illiterate.

No wonder you never did respond to me.. Do you have them all yet?

[Richard Hetrick]

I wont stop. You know why? Because, my truck is parked in the driveway and that's where it's going to stay. Till fuel goes down or rates go up. I had no choice but to park it and take a job with Werner. I had to do something fast.

On April 1st, I pulled my truck over, on the shoulder of I285-N (west side of Atlanta) and stayed there for 30 minutes, trying to convince other drivers to stop with me and not one, not even one, other driver stopped. In fact, they started talking shit about me on the radio.

Now it's over. Now I'll be driving a Werner truck. Now, I'll will have had my right to pursue the American Dream taken away and now, I will NOT stop. I don't care how many folks are sitting on the side of the road. Shoot at me and I'll simply make a right turn.

That being said, is there any fun to be had here, at this forum?

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by Richard Hetrick I wont stop. You know why? Because, my truck is parked in the driveway and that's where it's going to stay. Till fuel goes down or rates go up. I had no choice but to park it and take a job with Werner. I had to do something fast. On April 1st, I pulled my truck over, on the shoulder of I285-N (west side of Atlanta) and stayed there for 30 minutes, trying to convince other drivers to stop with me and not one, not even one, other driver stopped. In fact, they started talking shit about me on the radio. Now it's over. Now I'll be driving a Werner truck. Now, I'll will have had my right to pursue the American Dream taken away and now, I will NOT stop. I don't care how many folks are sitting on the side of the road. Shoot at me and I'll simply make a right turn. That being said, is there any fun to be had here, at this forum?

Welcome to the forum Richard, everyone is having to do whatever they have to do in order to survive. You are not alone.. Good luck.

[Richard Hetrick]

So, are there any fun conversations or are we all just wallowing in the same crap we wallow in on the CB?

[Cerberus]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer Well I can't let this one go. I feel as if you're speaking to another specific person, but...this must be responded to. The loss of brotherhood among drivers is actually very easy to explain, but very difficult to regain. Since the '73 shut-down our government implemented a strategy to ensure they wouldn't be faced with that situation again. The sad part is that we Americans are so easily fooled. They applied a simple technique from the art of war..."divide from within." By giving tax credits to the big trucking companies to hire schooled trained drivers...our government essentially put within the truckers ranks individuals not only inexperienced in the industry, but average joes which never had anyone teach them about true brotherhood. The lure of making big bucks as a company driver brought every tom, dick and harry to the industry. Now I'm not saying these newby's are by any means not able to succeed as drivers, but I am saying the ethics of who a truck driver is are not taught. Now you are seeing the result of that loss of ethics. Keep in mind our government never does anything on a short term basis. We have been divided from within. Now...unless you believe men are incapable of reaching an understanding of the truth, everyone of these drivers out on the big road can be shown the truth. You just need to commit yourself to making a difference and take the time to get through. And like a wildfire...eventually there's thousands of drivers beginning to spread the truth, and the brotherhood that once existed may be renewed only in a different aspect. Instead of a father taught son and all drivers were of this teaching...you have men pissed that our government has played them for pawns and they'll band together like Americans do...determined to persevere. Now with this being said, the same principle applies to the American citizens, only the truth is a hell of lot harder to accept. The method of getting through must be cautiously thought out. As to the boycott...I'm finding it hard to believe you actually think this couldn't work with the current situation of fuel prices. The majority of Americans attention is on the ever increasing price of fuel. They are trying to understand what the hell is going on - even the rich ones. I'm certain by now the majority has figured out it's because our country is being screwed by imported resources, and that we do have a means to get off of imports. Through proper presentation, to educate those that don't know yet, you fuel the fire by giving information about the companies doing business with imports and the companies which are not, calling on a boycott to force the companies, screwing Americans, out of business. It's actually a no brainer when you think about it. It's not a boycott requiring people to sacrafice anything...it's a boycott that directs not to purchase from specific companies. Where there's a Shell - there's a BP. Where there's an Exxon - there's an Amoco or Flying J or Arco...get my point? It is an action which could begin to make the difference needed. Sorry for the long winded response. -ss-

good response, SS. very well said. it shows professionillism and an educated way of speaking. most of your posts i have read make good points and this is an example of another. yes you have many points and you pointed then out quite well. have you heard the story of the Bull and the calf growing up trying to be a bull. you see the young calf and the bull are standing on a hill overlooking a field of cows in their prime and ready for action. now these cows where no ordinary cows, they were special cows. they were super hot. they had taught thighs and no spare tires and a blithera of teets to tease the opposite sex. the young male calf wanted to run down the hill and knock the bottom out of one of the cows. but the old wise bull knew better. he told the young calf to just mosey on down and bang them all. what did the calf do ? does it really matter but the concept is the same. you see what i am trying to say here is patience is a virtue and we can't rush into anything and we can't afford to wait for things to happen on it own. there has to be a plan and it has to have more than what 20 people trying to do it. your on the right path and running the right route but what is the fight about other than fuel ? they get there money one way or the other. look into the history of taxes. why was it done and why do we still pay them, forcably.

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by Cerberus good response, SS. very well said. it shows professionillism and an educated way of speaking. most of your posts i have read make good points and this is an example of another. yes you have many points and you pointed then out quite well. have you heard the story of the Bull and the calf growing up trying to be a bull. you see the young calf and the bull are standing on a hill overlooking a field of cows in their prime and ready for action. now these cows where no ordinary cows, they were special cows. they were super hot. they had taught thighs and no spare tires and a blithera of teets to tease the opposite sex. the young male calf wanted to run down the hill and knock the bottom out of one of the cows. but the old wise bull knew better. he told the young calf to just mosey on down and bang them all. what did the calf do ? does it really matter but the concept is the same. you see what i am trying to say here is patience is a virtue and we can't rush into anything and we can't afford to wait for things to happen on it own. there has to be a plan and it has to have more than what 20 people trying to do it. your on the right path and running the right route but what is the fight about other than fuel ? they get there money one way or the other. look into the history of taxes. why was it done and why do we still pay them, forcably.

I know the story well. I'm a little apprehensive with sharing my own personal ultimate goal. I have experienced through my years people shying away due to not only the knowledge of the truth, but the mt. everest type of journey to succeed.

Our government has been manipulated by the elitists, as they're called, and we have been manipulated by our government. The true purpose of our constitution has been twisted to fit their agenda, and where it couldn't be twisted to fit their agenda...situations and circumstances were created to develope an entity within our federal branches to over-ride the particular section they could not twist, or to herd us into the direction they wanted according to their agenda. I'll refrain from pointing out the specific situations I believe to have been created over the past two centuries for those purposes. It'll be too much for some to accept, and if we're on the same page here - which I believe we are - you understand.

According to our constitution, as I understand it, the power of this country's direction is directly in the hands of the American people. And each state is an entity of those constituents, joined together in our federal legislative branches. That each state governs according to the will of their consitituents, not the will of our federal branches. What I see is our federal branches controlled by the elitists...all in the name of power and money...dictating and controlling American citizens, when our constitution states it's the American citizens which controls our government.

We are raised and trained, I use that word specifically, by federally controlled government systems. Being trained to follow their agenda. To break through to the majority is a major fight in itself. There are many, many battles needing to be won to win this war. My fight is to return this country to it's true path according to our constitution before my final days. To pass on to my daughter a life of freedom, true freedom, to pursue her American dream. The war here is to remove the power from our federal government severing the control the elitists have on it, and return it to it's true owners...the American people.

Now that I have been placed in a position to lay all this up on the table...I hope y'all do not shy away and look upon me as a conspiracy theorist. I am a self-educated, rational thinking individual striving to reach not only my personal goal, but to achieve the common goals of all American citizens.

-ss-

[Richard Hetrick]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer I know the story well. I'm a little apprehensive with sharing my own personal ultimate goal. I have experienced through my years people shying away due to not only the knowledge of the truth, but the mt. everest type of journey to succeed. Our government has been manipulated by the elitists, as they're called, and we have been manipulated by our government. The true purpose of our constitution has been twisted to fit their agenda, and where it couldn't be twisted to fit their agenda...situations and circumstances were created to develope an entity within our federal branches to over-ride the particular section they could not twist, or to herd us into the direction they wanted according to their agenda. I'll refrain from pointing out the specific situations I believe to have been created over the past two centuries for those purposes. It'll be too much for some to accept, and if we're on the same page here - which I believe we are - you understand. According to our constitution, as I understand it, the power of this country's direction is directly in the hands of the American people. And each state is an entity of those constituents, joined together in our federal legislative branches. That each state governs according to the will of their consitituents, not the will of our federal branches. What I see is our federal branches controlled by the elitists...all in the name of power and money...dictating and controlling American citizens, when our constitution states it's the American citizens which controls our government. We are raised and trained, I use that word specifically, by federally controlled government systems. Being trained to follow their agenda. To break through to the majority is a major fight in itself. There are many, many battles needing to be won to win this war. My fight is to return this country to it's true path according to our constitution before my final days. To pass on to my daughter a life of freedom, true freedom, to pursue her American dream. The war here is to remove the power from our federal government severing the control the elitists have on it, and return it to it's true owners...the American people. Now that I have been placed in a position to lay all this up on the table...I hope y'all do not shy away and look upon me as a conspiracy theorist. I am a self-educated, rational thinking individual striving to reach not only my personal goal, but to achieve the common goals of all American citizens. -ss-

And again, the New World Order marches on............

[yellowbird2525]

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Originally Posted by rebel I hate it for you, but you are right. That being said I'm willing to be an indian or a chief but i'm going to fight to get this country back. The Irish have a saying, "Certain defeat is still no reason not to fight"

Hell! they already lost the war: they just are to damn dumb to know it! we may still have battles to fight, but they have LOST the war; I love birds; feed them, water them, watch them; see woodpeckers, hawks, orioles; watch the sky even if you are not a bird lover: repeatedly you will see a very large bird being picked on by a little bird (who always wins!) sometimes they have several small birds i mean miniscule chasing & pecking & harrassing the big bird; I am just one of those tiny little miniscule birds; & y'all are them to! which means we got the BIG BUZZARDS on the run! We are just one of so many millions of Americans fighting them in so many ways; I belong to multiple groups & everyone needs to or to have someone they know to do so; & then post it for the rest of it to be in on; it is called networking my friend & it is what the Gov does well; along with Corps, etc; And to quote Margaret Mead: "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed people can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." and I foget who said this but it is my favoritest of all: The only reason for evil to prevail is for good men (and women of course) to do nothing.

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by Richard Hetrick And again, the New World Order marches on............

But they have not yet won. Identify the many different events that must be achieved before they can put into place their final agenda. Determine the steps involved and the order in which those steps must be accomplished, then attack the fist step and so forth. Prevent the ultimate goal by destroying one, or all, of the steps which must occur to achieve the ultimate goal. This can be done...this will be done.

-ss-

[yellowbird2525]

I knew Gov was involved with Corps but the amount that they are is almost overwhelming & they have gone global & causing same problems & others in other countries as well; #1. NAU; spoke with Mexican man here & he said Clinton went there to his Pres (wow are they trying so hard to cover this up to) amazing lengths; their Constitution & Article 25 spelled out only citizens could own land & they had the water rights; apparently $ changed hands & suddenly the Large Corp's were there & they deliberatly flooded Mexico with extremely cheap corn; which of course is their main commodity; forcing the farmers crops to rot & they ended up having to leave their homes & land; even when citizens of USA they are extremely bitter & angry over Clinton & Bush for taking their land: they have a deep bitterness & he stated they were talking civil war; Newsman.com reported Civil war in Mexico; now it is changed on internet to "a movie wanting to be made"; Bush promised them $500M in aid; it is being reported in the censored news media as drug wars; the large Corp's & wealthy individuals own ABC, NBC, & CBS; sometimes they slide a story out but it is immediately censored; they are trying so hard to wake American's up to what is going on in the country (they are citizens to);

[Richard Hetrick]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer But they have not yet won. Identify the many different events that must be achieved before they can put into place their final agenda. Determine the steps involved and the order in which those steps must be accomplished, then attack the fist step and so forth. Prevent the ultimate goal by destroying one, or all, of the steps which must occur to achieve the ultimate goal. This can be done...this will be done. -ss-

Unlikely, They've been working on this agenda for five generations that I'm aware of. They've enjoyed such success that they no longer fear us, no longer fear retaliation or interruption. In fact, I'd dare say that both, the Democrats and Republicans, are working on the same agenda, from two different angles. So, a change in Washington will accomplish little. It'll look and smell different but it'll be business as usual.

Right now, the most immediate threat to our sovereignty is NAFTA, which has, for all practical purposes, already removed or eliminated the US's northern and southern boarders and promises to be the stepping stone to the North American Union. Much like the European Union, the African Union and the soon to be Asian Union. Breaking the world into four separate economic and political blocks. Can you stop NAFTA? No, probably not. I say that since we weren't consulted on it's creation, to start with and we wont be consulted on any further advancements for the agenda, either.

Short of a physical revolt by the citizens of this nation, I see no way to end what is already upon us.

[Richard Hetrick]

The steps are, pretty much (though consolidated), as follows. The creation of The North American Union, with a single currency and the creation of the Asian Union, as well. These four blocks, the European, African, American and Asian Unions can then be assimilated into a one world government, with a one world economy, of which it would appear that the United Nations will be in charge of.

First and foremost, it would be to eliminate NAFTA and like I said above, it's unlikely that there will be any success there.

As for the elimination of the middle class, I would say that we're already witnessing that, right before our very eyes. The goal there is to further the divide and lessen our resolve by making us more and more dependent on them, the powers that be, the rich and powerful. For example, I just had to park my truck and get a company driver's job. Making me more reliant on them and therefore, more open to suggestion since I have to pay my bills, feed myself and pay my child support. I have no choice in the matter, now. The battle to rid themselves of the middle class has already taken me down. And from what I understand, I'm not the only one. I see a future, not to distant, where company driver jobs will become scarce because of a lack of trucks. You what will happen then? Our government, that is controlled by the elitist, the rich and powerful, will help companies like JB Hunt, Schneider, Werner and others, to buy more trucks. You see, they won't help me but they'll jump to help them. Why? Because it is the agenda to consolidate the wealth and the power and by helping them to crush the little guy, like myself, they accomplish both.

[Richard Hetrick]

Obviously, I see this battle as already lost. And I can tell you what gave them this victory.

Complacency
Apathy
Self Indulgence

Those three character flaws as well as tools they've used, such as racism, which has probably been their most successful tool and helped to keep our eye off the ball and concentrated on petty squabbles, have created the avenue in which they've traveled, in which they've pushed this agenda.

[freightmaster]

I agree with you Rich and Silversurfer, But it aint over till its over!

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by Richard Hetrick Unlikely, They've been working on this agenda for five generations that I'm aware of. They've enjoyed such success that they no longer fear us, no longer fear retaliation or interruption. In fact, I'd dare say that both, the Democrats and Republicans, are working on the same agenda, from two different angles. So, a change in Washington will accomplish little. It'll look and smell different but it'll be business as usual. Right now, the most immediate threat to our sovereignty is NAFTA, which has, for all practical purposes, already removed or eliminated the US's northern and southern boarders and promises to be the stepping stone to the North American Union. Much like the European Union, the African Union and the soon to be Asian Union. Breaking the world into four separate economic and political blocks. Can you stop NAFTA? No, probably not. I say that since we weren't consulted on it's creation, to start with and we wont be consulted on any further advancements for the agenda, either. Short of a physical revolt by the citizens of this nation, I see no way to end what is already upon us.

It's the Pacific Union, if I'm not mistaken, and they have been working on this agenda for over two centuries. NAFTA is only one of the steps and that is not the immediate threat...it's already been put into place. The cross-border program (another step) must become legislated from pilot program to permanent status before the Super Corridor can be stepped up in it's creation (another step.) The immediate threat is the collapse of our economy...the breaking down of the citizens. There is still a battle that can be won to at least delay their progress, if not bring it to a halt. Here in Texas, we still maintain our right to bear arms...an use them. Last Sept. we won a victory in regards to the duty to retreat bs. We no longer must run away and be cornered before defending ourselves. This is another step which must be accomplished...removing our weapons from us.

Our economy hasn't been broke yet. This is another step which must be accomplished. Our government is dragging their feet as usual, expecting us to react as usual, allowing this destruction to occur. We must rise up now and pick the right battles to achieve success at winning this war.

Conviction and committment is what is needed. Ever heard the words...Improvise - Adapt - Overcome. These are more than just words in my family. They represent America's strength and greatness. You state short of a physical revolt as the only option left...if this is the case, and I don't believe it is yet, will you be standing next to me and many others on that day?

-ss-

[shadowdr]

From Pilot oil's website.

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The nation's largest operator of travel centers and largest seller of over-the-road diesel fuel. By 2001 Pilot was operating 65 convenience stores and 140 travel centers in 37 states. On September 1, 2001, Pilot Corporation and Marathon Petroleum Company(MPC) entered into an agreement to form Pilot Travel Centers (PTC). MPC is the nation's fifth largest petroleum refiner. MPC's 974,000 barrels per calendar day (bpcd) of crude refining capacity represents six percent of the total U.S. capacity. In February 2003, Pilot acquired Williams Travel Centers, doubling the size of the company.

Now if you cannot see how a boycott would be effective agaist two companies combining to monopolize the sale of diesel fuel then you must be blind. There is only one reason that diesel is higher the gas, control of the market. Pilot owns all pilots, bought out Williams, Mapcos and all independents to controll regional diesel sales.
Together with Marathon which already owned Marathon and Speedways is setting prices by control, not supply and demand.

[lunachic]

You might have to redo the area.
notice nothing coming out of the North, or West.
except The New Yorker.
Anyone heard from him? I'll help as much as I can.
already told Mo, that.lol

[Richard Hetrick]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer It's the Pacific Union, if I'm not mistaken, and they have been working on this agenda for over two centuries. NAFTA is only one of the steps and that is not the immediate threat...it's already been put into place. The cross-border program (another step) must become legislated from pilot program to permanent status before the Super Corridor can be stepped up in it's creation (another step.) The immediate threat is the collapse of our economy...the breaking down of the citizens. There is still a battle that can be won to at least delay their progress, if not bring it to a halt. Here in Texas, we still maintain our right to bear arms...an use them. Last Sept. we won a victory in regards to the duty to retreat bs. We no longer must run away and be cornered before defending ourselves. This is another step which must be accomplished...removing our weapons from us. Our economy hasn't been broke yet. This is another step which must be accomplished. Our government is dragging their feet as usual, expecting us to react as usual, allowing this destruction to occur. We must rise up now and pick the right battles to achieve success at winning this war. Conviction and commitment is what is needed. Ever heard the words...Improvise - Adapt - Overcome. These are more than just words in my family. They represent America's strength and greatness. You state short of a physical revolt as the only option left...if this is the case, and I don't believe it is yet, will you be standing next to me and many others on that day? -ss-

I would indeed, be standing next to you, although it would most certainly mean meeting our own US military on the journey there. Of course, I think we all know what that would mean, for most. And that's not even to mention the fact that the manipulation of education, multi-culturalism, and the feminization of American have resulted in something to the effect of 50% of American citizens, holding and openly expressing blatant contempt for this nation and it's further existence. Therefore, you'll not only be fighting the US military machine, the most powerful force on earth but you'd also be fighting with half of your neighbors and countrymen/women.