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I know this is gonna ruffle some feathers but it's true. It will not work because there is no togetherness in trucking anymore. Everybody just wants to argue and be right. Right about what ? And truck drivers are too busy attacking one another over ideas. I have seen it just today. It's pathetic. There is no brotherhood in trucking and that is why it will fail and fall hard. Just look at every trucking site out here. It's all for themselves and screw the other guy. But i can honestly say i had a conversation with Moose and even he doesn't understand why sites can't get along with each other. He is the only one i know out here who runs a trucking site who is favor of it. You don't see this kind of discontent in the police force and motorcycle riders. They have brotherhood and they stick together. One for all and all for one. Hell on spur of the moment they got 250+ bikers to ride to DC sunday. Can truckers do this ? HEL NO. You can't even get along here long enough without attacking a former member and this is just here. And i am really worn out on reading comments around here that are disgracful. And i'm tired of a certain member who everytime something is said that he doesn't like or somebody doesn't agree , he comes back and attacks and threatens to leave. Dude it's been 4-5 times i have read that around here now from you. Put up or shut up. And from what i am reading around here it looks like we're gonna have a bunch of cheifs but no indians. I'm not attacking anybody here but how do you expect to make a difference in anything at all if you all can't get along here on a forum ? Quit fighting amongst each other and fight the same objective. Become a unit of one or fail as individuals. Ok who did i piss off ? Go ahead and share it, i got big shoulders and thick skin.
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I know this is gonna ruffle some feathers but it's true. It will not work because there is no togetherness in trucking anymore. Everybody just wants to argue and be right. Right about what ? And truck drivers are too busy attacking one another over ideas. I have seen it just today. It's pathetic. There is no brotherhood in trucking and that is why it will fail and fall hard. Just look at every trucking site out here. It's all for themselves and screw the other guy. But i can honestly say i had a conversation with Moose and even he doesn't understand why sites can't get along with each other. He is the only one i know out here who runs a trucking site who is favor of it. You don't see this kind of discontent in the police force and motorcycle riders. They have brotherhood and they stick together. One for all and all for one. Hell on spur of the moment they got 250+ bikers to ride to DC sunday. Can truckers do this ? HEL NO. You can't even get along here long enough without attacking a former member and this is just here. And i am really worn out on reading comments around here that are disgracful. And i'm tired of a certain member who everytime something is said that he doesn't like or somebody doesn't agree , he comes back and attacks and threatens to leave. Dude it's been 4-5 times i have read that around here now from you. Put up or shut up. And from what i am reading around here it looks like we're gonna have a bunch of cheifs but no indians. I'm not attacking anybody here but how do you expect to make a difference in anything at all if you all can't get along here on a forum ? Quit fighting amongst each other and fight the same objective. Become a unit of one or fail as individuals. Ok who did i piss off ? Go ahead and share it, i got big shoulders and thick skin.
You know hun, I have to agree with you, I have got to where i just by pass all the arguing, If its not information i need then i just move on. I have better things to do with my time. You are just a very upfront person and i respect that...(yes i know you can be a pr...,lol but you also have a good heart.)
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You know hun, I have to agree with you, I have got to where i just by pass all the arguing, If its not information i need then i just move on. I have better things to do with my time. You are just a very upfront person and i respect that...(yes i know you can be a pr...,lol but you also have a good heart.)

thank you. i wrote that out of frustration that has just built up over the past few days of what i have read around here. I respect everybody here and i respect some more than others because i can see the passion they have on this situation. and i respect that whole heartedly. but there seems to be 1 or 2 that just needs to grow up and stop the b.s. and 1 i can say just needs a binky. i skim thru most threads unless i am reading info from members whom i respect post or if it gets quoted. I saw the new guy post some info today and to me he looks like he really cares and knows what he is talking about, to a point. he made some good points. and yes i am upfront sometimes a little too up front. i just say what others are thinking but to afraid to post or say. and yes i can be an a$$ and for that i apologize. i hope things going on doesn't stop you and the other few to get the mission done. I am behind you 100%.
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thank you. i wrote that out of frustration that has just built up over the past few days of what i have read around here. I respect everybody here and i respect some more than others because i can see the passion they have on this situation. and i respect that whole heartedly. but there seems to be 1 or 2 that just needs to grow up and stop the b.s. and 1 i can say just needs a binky. i skim thru most threads unless i am reading info from members whom i respect post or if it gets quoted. I saw the new guy post some info today and to me he looks like he really cares and knows what he is talking about, to a point. he made some good points. and yes i am upfront sometimes a little too up front. i just say what others are thinking but to afraid to post or say. and yes i can be an a$$ and for that i apologize. i hope things going on doesn't stop you and the other few to get the mission done. I am behind you 100%.
You know I meant that whole pr... in a loving way.. If you have noticed i have not had one arguement with anyone here and I am a woman and not a trucker, on a truckers forum, I had to work extra hard to earn peoples respect here. I think people need to realize we are individuals with different thougths but we are trying to accomplish the same goals.

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You know I meant that whole pr... in a loving way.. If you have noticed i have not had one arguement with anyone here and I am a woman and not a trucker, on a truckers forum, I had to work extra hard to earn peoples respect here. I think people need to realize we are individuals with different thougths but we are trying to accomplish the same goals.

ding ding ding that is the answer. you hit the nail on the coffin with that comment. now if everybody can have the same attitude then something just might happen. people like you because you are nice and respectful in all your posts. not once have i seen you stir the pot but being a woman i don't put it past you. lol.
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ding ding ding that is the answer. you hit the nail on the coffin with that comment. now if everybody can have the same attitude then something just might happen. people like you because you are nice and respectful in all your posts. not once have i seen you stir the pot but being a woman i don't put it past you. lol.
lol.. Oh you are right, I can hold my own and fight with the best of them, but i choose to use my strength and energy on fighting this battle and not with my family truckers.

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lol.. Oh you are right, I can hold my own and fight with the best of them, but i choose to use my strength and energy on fighting this battle and not with my family truckers.

haha.....i figured you have thick skin, i mean hell your married to a trucker so you have to. lol. and you put up with my fiestyness on occassions. lol. it's great to hear you are using your energy for the cause and with people like you this industry issues will have a happy ending. i don't know if you have heard it lately but thank you for all your doing.
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haha.....i figured you have thick skin, i mean hell your married to a trucker so you have to. lol. and you put up with my fiestyness on occassions. lol. it's great to hear you are using your energy for the cause and with people like you this industry issues will have a happy ending. i don't know if you have heard it lately but thank you for all your doing.
Thank you sweetie, very kind of you..There is that kind heart i am talking about...lol

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Thank you sweetie, very kind of you..There is that kind heart i am talking about...lol

damnit stop. lol. great there goes my rep of being an a-hole. guess i gotta run around the site and find somebody to be a dick to or my natural self. lol. where's Moose at when i need him ? lol
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damnit stop. lol. great there goes my rep of being an a-hole. guess i gotta run around the site and find somebody to be a dick to or my natural self. lol. where's Moose at when i need him ? lol
LOL LOL I swear that was my thoughts exactly, I was just about to tell you i was going to ruin your reputation... LOL now thats funny. Now that i have let the cat out of the bag. lol. Gotta go fix dinner... lol lol.

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I hate it for you, but you are right. That being said I'm willing to be an indian or a chief but i'm going to fight to get this country back. The Irish have a saying, "Certain defeat is still no reason not to fight"

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LOL LOL I swear that was my thoughts exactly, I was just about to tell you i was going to ruin your reputation... LOL now thats funny. Now that i have let the cat out of the bag. lol. Gotta go fix dinner... lol lol.

lol...now we're thinking alike. i'm sorry but i have enough voices in my head. another one like yours with the ability of being rational will only get me in more trouble that i already get in too. lol.

whats for dinner, (insert sweet talk here).
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I hate it for you, but you are right. That being said I'm willing to be an indian or a chief but i'm going to fight to get this country back. The Irish have a saying, "Certain defeat is still no reason not to fight"
Do you have the time to be a representative to help us organize. Would you be interested?
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I hate it for you, but you are right. That being said I'm willing to be an indian or a chief but i'm going to fight to get this country back. The Irish have a saying, "Certain defeat is still no reason not to fight"
thank you. you can help by helping out TN. Truckers Wife. she has her shit together and she wouldn't steer you wrong.

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lol...now we're thinking alike. i'm sorry but i have enough voices in my head. another one like yours with the ability of being rational will only get me in more trouble that i already get in too. lol.

whats for dinner, (insert sweet talk here).
Not sure what is for dinner, I spend too much time here. lol. Oh and great minds think alike, scary isn't it...
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Not sure what is for dinner, I spend too much time here. lol. Oh and great minds think alike, scary isn't it...

lol. eating re-heated grilled food from yesterday here. well it's a great site so it's hard not to spend time here. damn that sounds so butt munching.
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REBEL..... You are the kind of person we are looking for, can you be a representative and help us organize?
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REBEL..... You are the kind of person we are looking for, can you be a representative and help us organize?

shoot him a pm.....
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haha...with 115 views but only two responses, about what i figured. what nobody has no opinions anymore ? quit mumbling under your breath and post it. i can handle anything you got for input. by not responding to this is just more fact and proof why a strike/boycott won't work. you just wanna sit back and let others do the others do the work. if you can't stand up to me then why the hell should i follow you and your words on what your saying about a strike ? oh thats right everybody is right and only what they say is the way. yeah i'm stirring the pot but like i said if you can't get past me what makes you think you can make a diference. Only two people have stood up and said something, so i guess they are the only ones serious about this. yeah i'm calling you out, do something about it. i guess Tn TW and rebel are the only ones with enogh cohones to speak. more proof why it will never work. everybody bitching for change but only 2 can say something. those two has hard as they try can't do it all by themselves but looks like they have too.
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haha...with 115 views but only two responses, about what i figured. what nobody has no opinions anymore ? quit mumbling under your breath and post it. i can handle anything you got for input. by not responding to this is just more fact and proof why a strike/boycott won't work. you just wanna sit back and let others do the others do the work. if you can't stand up to me then why the hell should i follow you and your words on what your saying about a strike ? oh thats right everybody is right and only what they say is the way. yeah i'm stirring the pot but like i said if you can't get past me what makes you think you can make a diference. Only two people have stood up and said something, so i guess they are the only ones serious about this. yeah i'm calling you out, do something about it. i guess Tn TW and rebel are the only ones with enogh cohones to speak. more proof why it will never work. everybody bitching for change but only 2 can say something. those two has hard as they try can't do it all by themselves but looks like they have too.

Well I can't let this one go. I feel as if you're speaking to another specific person, but...this must be responded to.

The loss of brotherhood among drivers is actually very easy to explain, but very difficult to regain. Since the '73 shut-down our government implemented a strategy to ensure they wouldn't be faced with that situation again. The sad part is that we Americans are so easily fooled. They applied a simple technique from the art of war..."divide from within." By giving tax credits to the big trucking companies to hire schooled trained drivers...our government essentially put within the truckers ranks individuals not only inexperienced in the industry, but average joes which never had anyone teach them about true brotherhood. The lure of making big bucks as a company driver brought every tom, dick and harry to the industry. Now I'm not saying these newby's are by any means not able to succeed as drivers, but I am saying the ethics of who a truck driver is are not taught. Now you are seeing the result of that loss of ethics. Keep in mind our government never does anything on a short term basis. We have been divided from within.

Now...unless you believe men are incapable of reaching an understanding of the truth, everyone of these drivers out on the big road can be shown the truth. You just need to commit yourself to making a difference and take the time to get through. And like a wildfire...eventually there's thousands of drivers beginning to spread the truth, and the brotherhood that once existed may be renewed only in a different aspect. Instead of a father taught son and all drivers were of this teaching...you have men pissed that our government has played them for pawns and they'll band together like Americans do...determined to persevere. Now with this being said, the same principle applies to the American citizens, only the truth is a hell of lot harder to accept. The method of getting through must be cautiously thought out.

As to the boycott...I'm finding it hard to believe you actually think this couldn't work with the current situation of fuel prices. The majority of Americans attention is on the ever increasing price of fuel. They are trying to understand what the hell is going on - even the rich ones. I'm certain by now the majority has figured out it's because our country is being screwed by imported resources, and that we do have a means to get off of imports. Through proper presentation, to educate those that don't know yet, you fuel the fire by giving information about the companies doing business with imports and the companies which are not, calling on a boycott to force the companies, screwing Americans, out of business. It's actually a no brainer when you think about it. It's not a boycott requiring people to sacrafice anything...it's a boycott that directs not to purchase from specific companies. Where there's a Shell - there's a BP. Where there's an Exxon - there's an Amoco or Flying J or Arco...get my point? It is an action which could begin to make the difference needed.

Sorry for the long winded response.

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