Removing Oil from Stock Market

[rebel]

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Originally Posted by lunachic People I am sorry, I have read this post over and over again, kept turning away. I do not intend on starting a fight and I will not reply to any reply that is not civil. You are fighting for your own gain, just how much stock do you own? and as I have said befor, In the trucking business,oil is only a part of it. It is not even on the top of our problems.

You're right about this post. I hesitated to reply because I could see a big pissing contest coming. As part Creek, I don't particularly want to talk about how intelligent the white part of my ancestry is, but I'm interested in knowing what you think is a bigger problem for the trucking industry? Not arguing, just like your opinion.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by rebel You're right about this post. I hesitated to reply because I could see a big pissing contest coming. As part Creek, I don't particularly want to talk about how intelligent the white part of my ancestry is, but I'm interested in knowing what you think is a bigger problem for the trucking industry? Not arguing, just like you're opinion.

Rules, regulations,cost to operate, excluding fuel.
Brokers, border opening (living in another Country)
at a lower cost and under cutting our jobs.
Gov.Sub. the larger trucking co. (tax breaks) over inflated rates to them.
not giving the indep. a chance to compete.

[rebel]

Sorry luna, didn't see reply "till I hit "go advanced". Still learning to keep up. Well, I know rules & regs are a big cost factor in any business. It's hard to fight and change when lawmakers start picking it apart and dividing the spoils. I guess that's why I've concentrated on fuel price, a single issue. Have you checked out TRUCC act or HR1500 in congress to see if it fixes any of your problems? I know when I look at that statement it seems kinda funny but you know, we gotta start somewhere.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by rebel Sorry luna, didn't see reply "till I hit "go advanced". Still learning to keep up. Well, I know rules & regs are a big cost factor in any business. It's hard to fight and change when lawmakers start picking it apart and dividing the spoils. I guess that's why I've concentrated on fuel price, a single issue. Have you checked out TRUCC act or HR1500 in congress to see if it fixes any of your problems? I know when I look at that statement it seems kinda funny but you know, we gotta start somewhere.

I have read it, I also see it keeps getting mixed together and been going
around and around.
It's not going to happen now, The hill wont be in session soon.
Also I am seeing more rates going to Per mile, already away around it.
So it wont matter, I have a load of lets say lumber, it's paying me $3000.
I'm looking for a truck I'm paying $1.20 per mile and .48 fuel sur charge.
I cant be forced to pay %. I'll show you what I am paid, but that's not what I will pay you, take it or leave it.
With every law there is a counter law, alway's a way around it.

[rebel]

That's true. What's your suggestion? Personally, when I call D.C. I 've told them I don't care if you want a vacation. GET BACK TO WORK AND GET SOMETHING DONE. lol

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by rebel That's true. What's your suggestion? Personally, when I call D.C. I 've told them I don't care if you want a vacation. GET BACK TO WORK AND GET SOMETHING DONE. lol

Vacation, what's that?
To tell you the truth I'm not sure, came here looking for Idea's,
I belive it falls between the railroad and the Gov. sub. trucking co.
It's one of those things that's their, but can't connect the dots.
And as Indep. we are to Indep.
I know if we cant come together and come up with a plan, Under some
legal guide lines it is over for us.

[rebel]

That's the conclusion I've come to . Being a southerner I've seen the advantage and disadvantage of being organized (union). After reading NC labor law I'm still considered a slave. Since you can't get national union, I figured next best thing would be to cut fuel price. It's a shame. I think we all know the strength that a trucking union would have. Kinda like a poker game holding 4 aces.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by rebel That's the conclusion I've come to . Being a southerner I've seen the advantage and disadvantage of being organized (union). After reading NC labor law I'm still considered a slave. Since you can't get national union, I figured next best thing would be to cut fuel price. It's a shame. I think we all know the strength that a trucking union would have. Kinda like a poker game holding 4 aces.

we can form a union of sort, and force the teamsters to accept us.
under discriminaton. maybe?
or our hand is 2 pairs, A's and 8's.
This was good, maybe others will join in.
ttyl

[rebel]

Yeah, I've noticed if you stick to civil debate a good idea breaks thru once in awhile. I think about 10 am I'll beat on some congressman again and then go work in the garden. We all gotta eat.

[truckers2unite]

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Originally Posted by lunachic People I am sorry, I have read this post over and over again, kept turning away. I do not intend on starting a fight and I will not reply to any reply that is not civil. You are fighting for your own gain, just how much stock do you own? and as I have said befor, In the trucking business,oil is only a part of it. It is not even on the top of our problems.

you're not understanding this is a company that drills in our own country the old so called dried up wells and produces natural gas and more oil
we have been told that our supplies are not enough in the usa that is why we buy oil overseas
this company just proves that we have plenty of oil in the usa in old existing wells that they stopped drilling years ago
all the oil and gas this company drills for stays in the usa for use by the american people
i was just letting the person know there are companies out there that do drill through shale and rock horozontally instead of just the vertical drilling of years past
this company is an over the counter pink sheet stock that has not even turned a profit yet do to operating expense but like i said all the gas and oil that was left behind is being drilled by this company and many others out there that is being used in our own country not being shipped to another country like in alaska plus they find millions of barrels of oil in old so called dries up wells
these people are helping us with supply and demand issues now all we need is more refinaries in this country to be totally self sufficiant mand screw opec nations
let them eat their sand and drink their oil
how about we start charging them $12 for an apple what a thought
ps. i only own about $500 worth of this stock
its not the drilling companies we are fighting it is the government for not stepping in and doing something about this when barrel price hit $50 like they said they were going to do!

[lunachic]

Ok, I understand and agree with what you are saying, as I have stated befor I belive we should drill. And it does not matter who's back yard it is in as long as it belongs to us.
But at some point I want to move past The oil issue, It is covered at least on one thread.
That way maybe we can start to move in the right direction.
We must learn to talk it out without name calling,
Hi, I go by lunachic and I hope we can all work together and find a solution.
Then approach it together as one.

[truckers2unite]

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Originally Posted by lunachic Ok, I understand and agree with what you are saying, as I have stated befor I belive we should drill. And it does not matter who's back yard it is in as long as it belongs to us. But at some point I want to move past The oil issue, It is covered at least on one thread. That way maybe we can start to move in the right direction. We must learn to talk it out without name calling, Hi, I go by lunachic and I hope we can all work together and find a solution. Then approach it together as one.

sounds reasonable to me

[2xR]

I captured this headline, and snippet from a Transport Topics e-mail news account I subscribe to. Unfortunately, I am not a subscriber to the actual publication, and, they consider the entire article "premium content" so I can't give you all that was published. However, the headline, and, the first paragraph of the article about sums the situation up.

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U.S. Refineries Restricting Diesel Supplies U.S. diesel prices roared past gasoline in September, reversing the historic pattern because rising demand for diesel, coupled with the weak dollar, has led refiners to export the fuel even as their use of refinery capacity is at a four-year low, according to market experts.

So because the US dollar is weak they have cut back production (refinery capacity is at a four year low), and they are sending the stuff to markets where the return on their investment will be greater. This action will decrease the supply at the American pumps, thus running the price up to a level that off-sets the weakened dollar.

Ouch! But, how can you get angry about a corporation doing what corporations are suppose to do? Make money.