$6.00/gal. - fuel up, go home and shut-down...Has anyone heard about this yet?

[Robert929]

I'm feeling some real emotion on this subject. Wow! I really hope that everyone that is calling for a boycott/strike is truly prepared for the reaction of their action. If it were ever to come to fruition I don''t think alot of us would have the gonads to see it completely through!!!! My reason for sayin' this is, not to play devils advocate, but to look at all sides and have everyone think about the consequences of our actions. Yeah fuel is outrageous, and it makes no F****** sense. There, I said it, it's true and I believe it wholly, but what to do about it is the question. Are we gonna strong arm the government??? I know we say that we want to, but really, do we want to do that? Are we ready to do that? You see the government, through all of their argueing and bickering, will stand united against the people. Did you hear that???? A government for the people, by the people, will stand united AGAINST the people!!!!! My only question is will WE match the opposition and stand united AGAINST THE F****** government??? People, that's what it's gonna take, no more of this "my bills are more important to me" crap, the fact of the matter is most of us aren't able to take care of their bills anymore, and if you are fortunate to be able to do that, it seems like anymore that's all your working for, to keep the major conglomerates in business. WTF, how much abuse can a motherf***** take???? I'm sorry I'm so animated, but will someone, anyone give me a solution, so we can help us help ourselves, 'cause in all acutallity, we're the only ones that care!!!! Think about it! I'm sorry for the profanity, but we are talking about my livelihood here, as well as many others! If we can't get serious about that, then what else is there???? Tell me, I'm listening.

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by Robert929 I'm feeling some real emotion on this subject. Wow! I really hope that everyone that is calling for a boycott/strike is truly prepared for the reaction of their action. If it were ever to come to fruition I don''t think alot of us would have the gonads to see it completely through!!!! My reason for sayin' this is, not to play devils advocate, but to look at all sides and have everyone think about the consequences of our actions. Yeah fuel is outrageous, and it makes no F****** sense. There, I said it, it's true and I believe it wholly, but what to do about it is the question. Are we gonna strong arm the government??? I know we say that we want to, but really, do we want to do that? Are we ready to do that? You see the government, through all of their argueing and bickering, will stand united against the people. Did you hear that???? A government for the people, by the people, will stand united AGAINST the people!!!!! My only question is will WE match the opposition and stand united AGAINST THE F****** government??? People, that's what it's gonna take, no more of this "my bills are more important to me" crap, the fact of the matter is most of us aren't able to take care of their bills anymore, and if you are fortunate to be able to do that, it seems like anymore that's all your working for, to keep the major conglomerates in business. WTF, how much abuse can a motherf***** take???? I'm sorry I'm so animated, but will someone, anyone give me a solution, so we can help us help ourselves, 'cause in all acutallity, we're the only ones that care!!!! Think about it! I'm sorry for the profanity, but we are talking about my livelihood here, as well as many others! If we can't get serious about that, then what else is there???? Tell me, I'm listening.

You have reached a point to where it is bringing you to your knees, listen well people, it will happen to everyone of us. Sorry to say that some have already past that point while others are quickly approaching it, you are not alone. Since you have such a passion for change why don't you visit the thread "Offer to anyone willing to step up and be a rep./leader, please go there and see what you think.

[Flatbedpete]

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Originally Posted by Robert929 I'm feeling some real emotion on this subject. Wow! I really hope that everyone that is calling for a boycott/strike is truly prepared for the reaction of their action. If it were ever to come to fruition I don''t think alot of us would have the gonads to see it completely through!!!! My reason for sayin' this is, not to play devils advocate, but to look at all sides and have everyone think about the consequences of our actions. Yeah fuel is outrageous, and it makes no F****** sense. There, I said it, it's true and I believe it wholly, but what to do about it is the question. Are we gonna strong arm the government??? I know we say that we want to, but really, do we want to do that? Are we ready to do that? You see the government, through all of their arguing and bickering, will stand united against the people. Did you hear that???? A government for the people, by the people, will stand united AGAINST the people!!!!! My only question is will WE match the opposition and stand united AGAINST THE F****** government??? People, that's what it's gonna take, no more of this "my bills are more important to me" crap, the fact of the matter is most of us aren't able to take care of their bills anymore, and if you are fortunate to be able to do that, it seems like anymore that's all your working for, to keep the major conglomerates in business. WTF, how much abuse can a motherf***** take???? I'm sorry I'm so animated, but will someone, anyone give me a solution, so we can help us help ourselves, 'cause in all acutallity, we're the only ones that care!!!! Think about it! I'm sorry for the profanity, but we are talking about my livelihood here, as well as many others! If we can't get serious about that, then what else is there???? Tell me, I'm listening.

Hey that is pretty good. How long has it been since your last haul. Mine was March 17th. I have been sitting ( protesting cheap freight and cheap freight haulers aka company drivers and their companies who haul cheap freight also) and sitting and sitting. Guess what, cheap freight haulers are going out of business daily now. These are the same people who have cut my rates to get my work. Its been almost two months, and now we are starting to get calls from old business people who dumped us for cheap rates. Why you ask. Well they have found out the reliability to get the job done safely, professionally and in a timely manor could not be done by companies or individuals with inadequate equipment and inexperienced people or both. Now the people who needed to have this freight moved have realized their customers are no longer willing to wait for or accept damaged freight. The customer base is declining rapidly for the lack of quality transportation companies no longer willing to accept less than reasonable wages to perform a professional service they were accustom to having. Just like I have for casted, the shoe will be on the other foot. It will be a slow turn around and a little shaky at first, but will turn around. We have hauled steel coils to a place called iron city TN. I had the owner tell me he can get any fool truck driver to haul what he needs at his price at any time. Last week several brokers called asking for us to start hauling to this guy. The rate was low and I said no. The owner knows the service we offer, and asked why I charge so much. My answer was this. You referred to me as a pre madonna, you are right and the reason the rate is so high is because when you look at the trucks we have and see all that stainless steel accessories on them, that is what you are paying for. When you want a class act you have to be able to pay for it. Class pays don't forget it.

[Robert929]

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Originally Posted by Flatbedpete Hey that is pretty good. How long has it been since your last haul. Mine was March 17th. I have been sitting ( protesting cheap freight and cheap freight haulers aka company drivers and their companies who haul cheap freight also) and sitting and sitting. Guess what, cheap freight haulers are going out of business daily now. These are the same people who have cut my rates to get my work. Its been almost two months, and now we are starting to get calls from old business people who dumped us for cheap rates. Why you ask. Well they have found out the reliability to get the job done safely, professionally and in a timely manor could not be done by companies or individuals with inadequate equipment and inexperienced people or both. Now the people who needed to have this freight moved have realized their customers are no longer willing to wait for or accept damaged freight. The customer base is declining rapidly for the lack of quality transportation companies no longer willing to accept less than reasonable wages to perform a professional service they were accustom to having. Just like I have for casted, the shoe will be on the other foot. It will be a slow turn around and a little shaky at first, but will turn around. We have hauled steel coils to a place called iron city TN. I had the owner tell me he can get any fool truck driver to haul what he needs at his price at any time. Last week several brokers called asking for us to start hauling to this guy. The rate was low and I said no. The owner knows the service we offer, and asked why I charge so much. My answer was this. You referred to me as a pre madonna, you are right and the reason the rate is so high is because when you look at the trucks we have and see all that stainless steel accessories on them, that is what you are paying for. When you want a class act you have to be able to pay for it. Class pays don't forget it.

Big boy, the last load I delivered was two weeks ago in Ft. Mc Kay, AB. You speak of cheap freight and companies with their company drivers that move it, and you quote me while doing it. You also speak of hauling coils, wtf is that? What are you talking about when you speak of coils while quoting me? I've never seen a flat bed or a step deck here, we don't do that! If you got big trailers and you can afford to sit for over two months and keep employees etc., well congrats on being very successful. I doubt that is the case, but whatever. Hand, if your rate is so high and you're just that good that you've priced yourself out of a job, then I personally would take a look at my business plan and tweak something in it a little bit. How do you take care of the business by not doing business, I'm just asking? Granted I'm just a little ole' company driver, I'm not a big business owner/operator, but I was in class when they taught economics, and that's a recipe for failure. I have faith that you know what your doing though, so truck on trucker.......Peace.

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by Robert929 Big boy, the last load I delivered was two weeks ago in Ft. Mc Kay, AB. You speak of cheap freight and companies with their company drivers that move it, and you quote me while doing it. You also speak of hauling coils, wtf is that? What are you talking about when you speak of coils while quoting me? I've never seen a flat bed or a step deck here, we don't do that! If you got big trailers and you can afford to sit for over two months and keep employees etc., well congrats on being very successful. I doubt that is the case, but whatever. Hand, if your rate is so high and you're just that good that you've priced yourself out of a job, then I personally would take a look at my business plan and tweak something in it a little bit. How do you take care of the business by not doing business, I'm just asking? Granted I'm just a little ole' company driver, I'm not a big business owner/operator, but I was in class when they taught economics, and that's a recipe for failure. I have faith that you know what your doing though, so truck on trucker.......Peace.

Here it is in a nutshell for ya...It's not that Independents are charging too much, it's the brokers robbing a huge chunk of what's being paid by shippers & receivers...it's the brokers robbing the fuel surcharges, instead of passing that dollar onto the man/woman paying the fuel bill...it's the big trucking companies and foolish independents hauling the cheap freight that continues to encourage the bs brokers are doing...it's our government not taking action to put legislation (enforceable laws) in place to protect Independents (America's small businessmen)...it's the ridiculous price of fuel causing Independents to charge what they do (you have said you were schooled in economics - I, then, should not have to explain the methods for determining how much a company should charge to turn a profit)...it's the shippers/receivers creating huge uncompensated lost hours...it's the insurance companies charging ridiculous rates and placing unreasonable parameters/requirements to acquire and maintain insurance...these are the tip of the iceburg.

Independents that have parked their rigs have done so for one of two reasons. Either they are parked to prevent further financial loss, or they are parked because they have lost everything. Don't fool yourself, or anyone else, into believing that the industry is not in a major crisis. Big trucking companies are not going to be able to survive either...they'll just only put off the inevitable for a longer period if the price of fuel continues to spiral upwards (once again your schooling should indicate this.)

With all due respect, you are obviously not aware of the many different aspects of the trucking industry. Drop decks, step decks, x/ton lowboys, saddles, goosenecks/jeeps/pole...there are many different types of trailer configurations which we refer to as specialty haulers. When a man has the experience, knowledge and equipment to perform a job, you don't tell him how much he should charge or that he should adjust his method of determining his rate...you decide whether the price is acceptable to you or not. This industry has progressed to a point where the brokers (buyer) is dictating what the drivers (sellers) can charge for their services, and the drivers are allowing this to happen by continually accepting the cheap rates. Now with the price of fuel...the buyers continue to dictate low rates and expect the sellers to continue to run without the ability to even make a living for his/her family. Even as a company driver, with an education in economics, you should be able to identify this within our industry.

Sorry for getting long winded with this one.

-ss-

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by Robert929 I'm feeling some real emotion on this subject. Wow! I really hope that everyone that is calling for a boycott/strike is truly prepared for the reaction of their action. If it were ever to come to fruition I don''t think alot of us would have the gonads to see it completely through!!!! My reason for sayin' this is, not to play devils advocate, but to look at all sides and have everyone think about the consequences of our actions. Yeah fuel is outrageous, and it makes no F****** sense. There, I said it, it's true and I believe it wholly, but what to do about it is the question. Are we gonna strong arm the government??? I know we say that we want to, but really, do we want to do that? Are we ready to do that? You see the government, through all of their argueing and bickering, will stand united against the people. Did you hear that???? A government for the people, by the people, will stand united AGAINST the people!!!!! My only question is will WE match the opposition and stand united AGAINST THE F****** government??? People, that's what it's gonna take, no more of this "my bills are more important to me" crap, the fact of the matter is most of us aren't able to take care of their bills anymore, and if you are fortunate to be able to do that, it seems like anymore that's all your working for, to keep the major conglomerates in business. WTF, how much abuse can a motherf***** take???? I'm sorry I'm so animated, but will someone, anyone give me a solution, so we can help us help ourselves, 'cause in all acutallity, we're the only ones that care!!!! Think about it! I'm sorry for the profanity, but we are talking about my livelihood here, as well as many others! If we can't get serious about that, then what else is there???? Tell me, I'm listening.

As per your other post,And the obvious rants.
You have know clue,
Reread your post.
all of them.

[fatman63]

I wonder would the truckers concerns about the high cost of fuel be heard by signed petitions addressing the issue, are sent to the representatives in each state?

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by fatman63 I wonder would the truckers concerns about the high cost of fuel be heard by signed petitions addressing the issue, are sent to the representatives in each state?

There is a fuel petition that has been going around for a few months, it is at IDONTTHINKSO.COM, please sign and pass it on... Thanks

[Greyfoxx]

NEWS FLASH .....I just got a phone call from a friend in western Washington who tells me the there are gas stations serving water with their gasoline. The story is that one of the truck drivers pump water into one of the trucks delivering gasoline to EXXON/MOBIL stations. Whoever he is, you have my blessings, "God save Americans with guts"

[fatman63]

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Originally Posted by TN. TRUCKERS WIFE There is a fuel petition that has been going around for a few months, it is at IDONTTHINKSO.COM, please sign and pass it on... Thanks

Thanks, I will

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by Greyfoxx NEWS FLASH .....I just got a phone call from a friend in western Washington who tells me the there are gas stations serving water with their gasoline. The story is that one of the truck drivers pump water into one of the trucks delivering gasoline to EXXON/MOBIL stations. Whoever he is, you have my blessings, "God save Americans with guts"

see if u can get the news story on that.
and to the driver,

[Greyfoxx]

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Originally Posted by lunachic see if u can get the news story on that. and to the driver,

I heard it all morning on Seattle's NWCN-TV an all day news station. The only other item that came up later was that the gas stations were paying for all the car rentals while the customer's cars are being repaired.

In any case this should make people think twice before buying gas from EXXON anywhere in the country. What if there are others out there pumping water in underground fuel tanks, or the fuel tankers while they are setting in the yards around the country.