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Old 05-24-2008   #1
    $6.00/gal. - fuel up, go home and shut-down...Has anyone heard about this yet?
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I have been getting emails about a buzz on the airways from Michigan to North Carolina and all along the northeastern region. Drivers are beginning to spread the word about shutting down when the price of fuel hits $6.00/gal.

Has anyone heard about this yet? I have personally talked with two associates about what has been firing across the airways today. It apparently started late this afternoon. I've been asked whether The American Driver was going to support this action. Before my bro and I take a stand to get this info out on the web...I wanted to ask y'all about it. So y'all know, my bro and I are always there for professional drivers, and will pursue getting behind them with whatever support we can give.

Would y'all please give me some feedback before The American Driver takes a stand and announces a national action. I'm not apprehensive about this, only cautious because of the organization issue. It's hard to determine just how long it will take for the price of fuel to reach $6.00/gal....two weeks, a month, two months.

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Lets just say we'll shut down when fuel hits 27 dollars a gallon....Same difference,they didn't shut down when the shutdown was called for so its just pissing in the wind.impo...
Oh and fuel will never be 6 dollars a gallon, it may be 5,99.9 or 6,00.9 but these dishonest bastards"oil companies/government" cannot even admit that there is no such thing a 9 tenths of a friggen cent!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't really understand the thinking behind this.

If you are going to shut down at $6.00/Gallon, it tends to make it sound like you are "OK" with fuel prices as long as they don't go over that amount.

Doesn't sound like a good plan at all to me.
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I don't really understand the thinking behind this.

If you are going to shut down at $6.00/Gallon, it tends to make it sound like you are "OK" with fuel prices as long as they don't go over that amount.

Doesn't sound like a good plan at all to me.
I'm glad somebody is paying attention. I'm still curious though as to what is a shut down gonna solve? I just wonder that if an organized shutdown was to take place across the whole country, would we be willing to accept the consequences of all of the illegal immigrants hauling all of our freight? They are waiting for us to pull something like this. Would we have the resolve to see it COMPLETELY through, or would we fold the first time our mortgages came due, or the minute our cell phones got turned off, not to mention the minute our refrigerators and deep freezers got empty???? I'm not against it at all, if the goal is to make for a better industry, but boycotting or striking just to get fuel prices back to where they were, and noone mentions the corrupt a** brokers, crooked companies, outlandish insurance rates, and the rip off retail practices of the truck stops, and if someone doesn't once and for all stand up and quash this NAFTA crap as far as illegal immigrants being allowed to haul freight in our country, then we are all getting wound up over nothing.... And that's real!!!!! Sorry I went so long, but if we're gonna do this, we only get one shot to do it right, and going in half-cocked, we will be treated accordingly. These are just some of the issues, I got a few more....
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I'm all for the shutdown part, I say go for it. I'm with Bullwinkle on the "Why wait for $6.00". What the hell is that about? Who the hell can afford to run for $5.00 a gal.? I damn sure can't. That sounds stupid as hell. I heard one guy that runs 6 trks with dump trailers hauling Phosphate all over say when it reaches $10.00 a gal. they would park them. How damn dumb are these people? If you're gonna park, dammit, park now and get the damn thing stopped before it gets any worse. What kind of stupid mentality is that? Anyway, I would back it now, not later. Later means just that...Too Damn Late
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Diseal prices are rising Daily, how long are drivers going to be able to hold on is the real question? Sitting dates to try to start a shutdown or what ever for over a month away, by then sooo many drivers will not make it. That is my real concern. Tensions are rising as people are bringing home less and less money each week.
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I'm on the same page as y'all, but this is apparently what is beginning to spread across the airways. I too, don't understand the 6.00/gal statement, but I do understand the need to get everyone - and I mean everyone - to act together. If the majority are talking about the key to this action being 6.00/gal...then why not use it. Instead of trying to convince the majority to getting the same result on a different path, why not use the majorities path to achieve that result (only an opinion.)

As to the reasons regarding a shut-down...there needs to be a clear, concise statement listing the reasons and demands (no ridiculous or ignorant statements such as the ones I had to deal with in the last attempt.) And that statement needs to be circulated everywhere. Everyone needs to be aware of, and stay on subject, regarding the reasons and demands for the shutdown. This is where you state issues such as our government's inability to deal with getting the action needed, transparency in the industry, independents and companies being forced into bankruptcy, etc.

In regards to Mexican trucks...this seems to always be someone's statement in regards to a shut-down. Have you really taken the time to research this. First, over 70% of America's freight is hauled by independent truckers. Second, Mexico has it's own trucking demands for their economy. The cross-border program was suppose to have 100 Mexican trucking companies involved by January 2008. Only 15 companies were involved by that time, and 1 has gone back to OP2 status after inspection issues. Now if the Mexican companies were in a position of need for additional business...don't you think there would have been morre than 15 companies involved? As to immigrants - this government couldn't get enough immigrants behind the wheel of rigs fast enough to advert a shut-down.

Robert929...your statement rings true in regards to the conviction to follow through, but there are already many drivers already faced with those problems and don't have a choice...they simply can't continue to run with the cost of fuel. They have been forced into bankruptcy, and it won't be much longer before hundreds of thousands more will be. I would like to point out a shut-down on a large scale will not last a month (the '73 shut-down clearly demonstrates action will be taken by our government within a very short time.) Therefore, the question is not if...it's when and how to achieve an effective shut-down.

Everyone...appreciate the input. It gets the juices flowing and thought aroused regarding the different paths to success. I definitely want to take advantage of any means to accomplish the task at hand.

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I just wonder that if an organized shutdown was to take place across the whole country, would we be willing to accept the consequences of all of the illegal immigrants hauling all of our freight? They are waiting for us to pull something like this.
I wouldn't be concerned about this. Our entire country is up in arms right now because of fuel prices, not just truck drivers. If the government tried to call our bluff by putting illegals into the seats of trucks, this nation would go into an uproar. You might actually see the beginning of a revolution if that happened, and it wouldn't be a peaceful revolution.
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I wouldn't be concerned about this. Our entire country is up in arms right now because of fuel prices, not just truck drivers. If the government tried to call our bluff by putting illegals into the seats of trucks, this nation would go into an uproar. You might actually see the beginning of a revolution if that happened, and it wouldn't be a peaceful revolution.

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[quote=SilverSurfer;15970]I have been getting emails about a buzz on the airways from Michigan to North Carolina and all along the northeastern region. Drivers are beginning to spread the word about shutting down when the price of fuel hits $6.00/gal.


We are paying $4.30 for regular gas, and $5.20 for diesel. Anone's guess is as good as mine as to when they will turn out the lights on America. What puts me in a rage is that Americans don't seems to care enough to stand up and fight.

Accept for the truckers here on this wrbsite I don't see a drop of courage welling up in America over fuel prices. Those who want to put America in their pockets and make slaves of us have done a good job.

My mother was a nurse for over 45 years, and served in the Navy as a nurse in a mass unit during the Korean, and Vietnam wars. She once said something to me that has always welled up in my mind when I saw an injustice ."You can be a carrot and have heartless people eat your lunch, or you can be an onion and make them think twice before trying". I been a fighter all my life, but I have to say when an entire nation of people give up and only a few are left to do the fighting you end up with another Germany.
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I have been getting emails about a buzz on the airways from Michigan to North Carolina and all along the northeastern region. Drivers are beginning to spread the word about shutting down when the price of fuel hits $6.00/gal.


We are paying $4.30 for regular gas, and $5.20 for diesel. Anone's guess is as good as mine as to when they will turn out the lights on America. What puts me in a rage is that Americans don't seems to care enough to stand up and fight.

Accept for the truckers here on this wrbsite I don't see a drop of courage welling up in America over fuel prices. Those who want to put America in their pockets and make slaves of us have done a good job.

My mother was a nurse for over 45 years, and served in the Navy as a nurse in a mass unit during the Korean, and Vietnam wars. She once said something to me that has always welled up in my mind when I saw an injustice ."You can be a carrot and have heartless people eat your lunch, or you can be an onion and make them think twice before trying". I been a fighter all my life, but I have to say when an entire nation of people give up and only a few are left to do the fighting you end up with another Germany.

Well said, the kicker is the news is reporting that travel is up 20% from last year for this holiday.
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Well said, the kicker is the news is reporting that travel is up 20% from last year for this holiday.
That's strange...I found an article about the lack of bumper-to-bumper traffic to get to the hamptons. And hell, I live in an area where trailers and RV's appear all over the place, yet there isn't very much traffic this memorial day. Just additional proof our national media is in on the subterfuge.

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what worries me is we have already tried several shutdowns and apart from the april 1st shutdown no one shut down and even in April few did.

And then there is the protests, today I heard that over 200,000 motorcycles converged on D.C. for the annual run for the wall and I think its great that motorcyclists from all over the country took the time and energy to support our troops.
and yet we could only manage less than 200 trucks to go to D.C. and show unity in trying to save us all from going broke, kinda pathetic isn't it??
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what worries me is we have already tried several shutdowns and apart from the april 1st shutdown no one shut down and even in April few did.

And then there is the protests, today I heard that over 200,000 motorcycles converged on D.C. for the annual run for the wall and I think its great that motorcyclists from all over the country took the time and energy to support our troops.
and yet we could only manage less than 200 trucks to go to D.C. and show unity in trying to save us all from going broke, kinda pathetic isn't it??

Damn right. the bikers are more of a family than trucking ever has been. and i would be with them today in DC if my clutch didn't go out this morning and i have to wait for a part to come in on tuesday. trucking just doesn't have the commoditry that biking does.
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I for one ain't waiting anymore.Starting before Memorial Day, I informed the President, Rep. Shuler and both Senators here in N.C. that if they wouldn't get the price of oil to drop that I was coming to D.C,. to do it myself! My dad new how in 1973. If oil is $135.oo a barrel then so is an ear of corn to every OPEC country. Then let them eat their oil! I told them when gas hits $4 I'm coming to see them in person and DEMANDING action and I don"t take no for an answer because they work for ME. I'm not a driver but my granddad was and my wife too. I'm sick of the way this country's going down the tubes and I'm not going without a fight. I still say we need to blockade D.C. to get these idiots attention and I'm willing to go there any time you need me. Hopefully, you"ll see me on the news soon and hopefully not in cuffs but I ain't skeered.
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I for one ain't waiting anymore.Starting before Memorial Day, I informed the President, Rep. Shuler and both Senators here in N.C. that if they wouldn't get the price of oil to drop that I was coming to D.C,. to do it myself! My dad new how in 1973. If oil is $135.oo a barrel then so is an ear of corn to every OPEC country. Then let them eat their oil! I told them when gas hits $4 I'm coming to see them in person and DEMANDING action and I don"t take no for an answer because they work for ME. I'm not a driver but my granddad was and my wife too. I'm sick of the way this country's going down the tubes and I'm not going without a fight. I still say we need to blockade D.C. to get these idiots attention and I'm willing to go there any time you need me. Hopefully, you"ll see me on the news soon and hopefully not in cuffs but I ain't skeered.
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I for one ain't waiting anymore.Starting before Memorial Day, I informed the President, Rep. Shuler and both Senators here in N.C. that if they wouldn't get the price of oil to drop that I was coming to D.C,. to do it myself! My dad new how in 1973. If oil is $135.oo a barrel then so is an ear of corn to every OPEC country. Then let them eat their oil! I told them when gas hits $4 I'm coming to see them in person and DEMANDING action and I don"t take no for an answer because they work for ME. I'm not a driver but my granddad was and my wife too. I'm sick of the way this country's going down the tubes and I'm not going without a fight. I still say we need to blockade D.C. to get these idiots attention and I'm willing to go there any time you need me. Hopefully, you"ll see me on the news soon and hopefully not in cuffs but I ain't skeered.

Now that's some fire there. Take and channel it into getting people informed and involved around your neck of the woods before you head to D.C. It's better to have company in the holding cell, than to have to explain to the drunks what you're doing there...know what I mean.

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Can't help ya with the cost of fuel: can help ya with laundry soap: simple, quick, easy & you will save a bundle! & the Corp's can take it in THEIR wallets! 1 c. soap (i used ivory, cheapest & no oils, etc); 12 bars $3.68; 1/2 c. washing soda (different than baking soda but made by ARM & HAMMER; 1/2 c. borax;: grate soap or use food processor, rinsing well afterwards of course; add the other 2 ingredients; Lightloads use 2 TBSP; heavyloads use 3 TBSP; this is powdered laundry soap; works excellent; if you could use empty coffee cans, any recycled item: you could make this a business but don't do what the Corp's do: they use fillers usually ground up corn cobs to make it "appear" you are getting far more for your $; to make the boxs look bigger; & you have to use more of it; & they get more $ from your pockets; this will help tremendously on household costs which will give you more $ for your trucks;
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First of all I do not understand why we are arguing over the oil price other than it is way out of line and they say we have no way to control it. That is BS and our government leaders know it. Why are we defending the Saudi area. Why are we suppling them with arms. Why are we suppling them with food. Why haven't we raised our prices to them. Remember who needed our military force to protect themselves from Iran. Guess what we have an agreement to still do that. They now have a global market to sell oil any where, and we get treated like this. They wouldn't be here if it wasn't for us and our need for the oil. I think we should let them look for other sources to protect themselves from Iran. I think we should let them find other sources for food. I think we need to find BETTER FRIENDS.
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I for one ain't waiting anymore.Starting before Memorial Day, I informed the President, Rep. Shuler and both Senators here in N.C. that if they wouldn't get the price of oil to drop that I was coming to D.C,. to do it myself! My dad new how in 1973. If oil is $135.oo a barrel then so is an ear of corn to every OPEC country. Then let them eat their oil! I told them when gas hits $4 I'm coming to see them in person and DEMANDING action and I don"t take no for an answer because they work for ME. I'm not a driver but my granddad was and my wife too. I'm sick of the way this country's going down the tubes and I'm not going without a fight. I still say we need to blockade D.C. to get these idiots attention and I'm willing to go there any time you need me. Hopefully, you"ll see me on the news soon and hopefully not in cuffs but I ain't skeered.

your right they cant eat their sand nor drink their oil
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