Reps

[lunachic]

S.S. how many states do have reps.?
And how is each State responding?

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by lunachic S.S. how many states do have reps.? And how is each State responding?

We have Michigan and North Carolina involved. They are currently using Truckers4Change site while they are creating sites for each state. They are working hard at getting people involved.

I am currently in contact with Montana, they are organizing fairly quickly. They are currently talking about another national shut-down around the July 4th holiday. I have offered to assist with a site page for them. Something should be happening by the first of the week regarding Montana.

New York seems to be heavily involved with the PA group, and I will abstain from any comments in that regards except to say that New York is very well organized with over 40,000 registered members.

I am still hopeful regarding PA...not sure what's happening with them. They have stated they want nothing to do with my brother, JB. It's a personal issue between them and my bro. Because these issues are bigger than all of us, I stay nuetral and available if needed in regards to PA.

We have reached out to Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, California, South Dakota, Massachusetts, Florida, New Jersey and Virginia. There has been contact made, but still in the early stages of getting something started. My bro is working hard to get something going within those states, as well as reaching out to the rest.

Follow-up is being done regarding Indiana. We were hopeful JTExpress was going to run with that ball. Still a work in progress.

I can say this with confidence...there is contact being made and my bro and I are offering assistance with site pages to help get state chapter pages for them if needed. We are also recommending our php sub-domain site as a central communication site for everyone. Mass email is incorporated within our php sub-domain, allowing for info to be shared among all registered members about any messages or important info. I believe this capability will be our biggest asset when it comes to getting information to everyone when action is needed, whether within a particular state or nation-wide. Beyond that, we are working hard to get things going.

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[Bullwinkle]

As reps are put in place from each state, is there going to still be a primary leadership area?

I ask because you mentioned "Montana" possibly organizing a July 4 shutdown.

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle As reps are put in place from each state, is there going to still be a primary leadership area? I ask because you mentioned "Montana" possibly organizing a July 4 shutdown.

This is the delima I have encountered with the group in PA. Individuals grouping together, making decisions affecting the whole without proper deliberation of the input from the whole, or not accepting input as positive from the whole, and attempting to take on too much at once. Although they do attempt to accomplish good goals...personal opinions have been allowed to get in the way regarding the better of the whole and decisions have been made without proper consideration. I would rather not go any further with any statements about the PA group. I am still hopeful for their growth as an organization able to effect changes within their state, and on a national level.

I believe we should be organized as one group, with leaders from each state. Where the primary group are the leaders of each state...conferencing together on national actions and events. State actions and events are the responsibility of that particular state's group, with assistance of support from the other state organizations. National actions and events are pursued and supported by all state leaders to achieve success. Instead of a leadership area...we utilize the internet to have a central organization point. This I believe will prevent any one group from attaining power to make decisions affecting the whole. I truely believe by making America the primary area will allow us to attain a more powerful voice as an organization, and also allow us to succeed with national actions and events.

This is my opinion, and feelings, on the structure of how we should organize. I draw my opinion based upon our constitution's structure...where each state is responsible for itself with leaders from each state being active with the actions regarding the whole. But I want to relay to all that this is my opinion, and I'm open and receptive to any, and all, input regarding this issue. We need to step out of the box regarding traditional structure which has been determined by entities within Corp America. Where there is one controlling entity with several seperate entities effected by it's decisions.

Montana is organizing to a level where discussions of actions are taking place. Just as New York as done within their state organization. To take this to the next level will require communication and commitment from everyone. They are seriously talking about another shut-down, and as I see it, it could achieve a higher level of success if we get together as one, select a proper time-frame and commit ourselves to follow through with the action. Even if we are not fully set with organizations from each state, I don't believe this would not prevent a higher level of success by reaching out to all the independents everywhere, as well as any contacts which have been developed thus far with the media. I believe this...if a higher level of success is achieved this time around, coupled with the continueing rise in fuel prices, the media will pay a little more attention to us.

Sorry I got a little long winded there Moose. I hope I've answered your question without generating confusion, or more questions regarding this issue. I'm finding it a little difficult to maintain a position of active assistance to affect change without coming across as an individual wanting to take the role of leader making decisions effecting the whole. It's not as if I don't feel I couldn't fill those shoes, but I truely believe everyone should step up and take a leadership role.

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[Bullwinkle]

No problems with you getting long winded, that is how we learn things

As for a July 4 shutdown, I think Montana would be making a mistake here. Once again, we would be looking at 30 days to get the word out, and coming from the State of Montana, I got a feeling that it would be tough to get the word out, period.

I truly think that something like a shutdown needs to be announced well ahead of time, and it needs to be announced nationwide. I also think it would be a very good idea if a few organizations could communicate together for a situation like a shutdown, and they could all call for a shutdown at the same time.

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle No problems with you getting long winded, that is how we learn things As for a July 4 shutdown, I think Montana would be making a mistake here. Once again, we would be looking at 30 days to get the word out, and coming from the State of Montana, I got a feeling that it would be tough to get the word out, period. I truly think that something like a shutdown needs to be announced well ahead of time, and it needs to be announced nationwide. I also think it would be a very good idea if a few organizations could communicate together for a situation like a shutdown, and they could all call for a shutdown at the same time.

This is exactly what I've impressed with Jamie. And that a state-wide shut-down is the path they should pursue as a Montana organization if this is their decision. (This is what I was referring to earlier.) State's stepping up and leading actions and events within their state. Also, I advised if a state shut-down is pursued...we'd support their efforts and that they should not begin such action until the day after the holiday (July 5th.)

I agree with the national shut-down scenario, but I also believe a state organization could possibly be successful in a state shut-down scenario. It's focus is centralized to that particular state, and state residents do get media information within their region. The national media may not pick up the action, but local media will. Case in point - PA actions. The local media was all over it, but the national media wasn't. Now if enough states were to step up and take action, and the local media was covering it...it's more likely the national media would begin to cover these actions more. This could very well lead to the type of coverage we need to reach more Americans. Just some brainstorming thoughts I had with scenarios.

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[Bullwinkle]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer This is exactly what I've impressed with Jamie. And that a state-wide shut-down is the path they should pursue as a Montana organization if this is their decision. (This is what I was referring to earlier.) State's stepping up and leading actions and events within their state. Also, I advised if a state shut-down is pursued...we'd support their efforts and that they should not begin such action until the day after the holiday (July 5th.)

Ok, that makes more sense now.

I was under the impression with the first post that Montana was going out on their own and calling for a Nationwide shutdown on July 4.

That clears a whole lot up for me.

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle Ok, that makes more sense now. I was under the impression with the first post that Montana was going out on their own and calling for a Nationwide shutdown on July 4. That clears a whole lot up for me.

It is what they are planning. Don't want any misunderstanding between us, Moose. They are discussing it as a national action. I am attempting to direct them without overstepping my relationship with Jamie. I feel confident I'll succeed at getting through regarding planning of actions and events on state and national levels. We just need to keep in mind the frustrations eveyone is feeling, and the reality we have not all (there are many groups and individuals attempting to get things done) truely organized to get the desired success needed.

Lately, during this reaching out to locate state rep's, I'm finding myself filling a father figure roll having to lead individuals to the right path without presenting the path in a fatherly way. I'm constantly praying to the lord for my success at this.

Anyways...I just wanted to be certain there was no misunderstanding between us. I understand the importance of clear, concise communication with individuals already alert of the path to victory.

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[lunachic]

We need reps. We dont need from each state can divide into territory.
Cant we Grayfoxx?
Oh now Grayfoxx would make a good rep.
who else?
Start putting your name here if you are interested.
Tn.TW would make a good Rep. for the South.
and?
Start putting names down. alot to do. We need to make alot of noise by election day.

[BANDIT]

I nominate GreyFoxx, Bullwinkle, Tn.TruckersWife, & FlatbedPete for starters. I believe they would all make excellant Regional Reps.> I believe you would too lunachic, if you're interested. By the way, Good Mornin Everyone.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by BANDIT I nominate GreyFoxx, Bullwinkle, Tn.TruckersWife, & FlatbedPete for starters. I believe they would all make excellant Regional Reps.> I believe you would too lunachic, if you're interested. By the way, Good Mornin Everyone.

Good-morning,
I agree, greyfoxx,Bullwinkle.Tn Truckerswife & Flatbedpete.
I cant I speak how I feel tell it like it is.............
more and more showing up here, lets hear your views.
And who would be interested.
Then we can vote, Tell us about your self.
lets get this going.
gotta go everyone have a great safe week-end.

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

Gosh Luna and Bandit, thanks for the vote of confidence. It's not that i would have a problem with being a rep. at all. The problem is i have no idea what the expectations are for it. I have quite a bit of time i can devote but NO MONEY. Please keep in mind i am also a wife and mother with a twelve year old at home. I will see what would be expected of me but i can't make any promises. Trust me not that i would not absolutely love to. I think you all know me well enough to know, i have NO problem talking to people and i am very passionate about this. I NEVER miss an opportunity to get on my soapbox about this no matter where i'm at.

[SilverSurfer]

Now that's stepping up people! The regional idea is a good one. It could actually work, I think.

Here's my thoughts on what the main responsibility of a rep is...
1. Be the leader for the individuals within that region/state. History shows that people are basically followers and will rise up when there is a leading force.
2. Provide a contact point (email and phone#) which people can call/email with questions and input. A strong, committed, individual with the ability to be concise and clear in their statements.
3. Maintain member info. Send emails, or call, members on at least a weekly basis...reinforcing the organizing efforts, and pushing to spread the word.
4. Be active in communicating with other leaders.
5. When an action is called upon...be the committed leader. At all costs - be there for the followers and direct with authority.

Here's my offer to anyone willing to step up. I'll create a webpage on our site with your contact info, background info, and any other pertinent information you want on that page. I'll maintain any changes you want made on your page (simply email what you want done...within reason.) And I will promote your page however I can.

So...do I have any takers?

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[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer Now that's stepping up people! The regional idea is a good one. It could actually work, I think. Here's my thoughts on what the main responsibility of a rep is... 1. Be the leader for the individuals within that region/state. History shows that people are basically followers and will rise up when there is a leading force. 2. Provide a contact point (email and phone#) which people can call/email with questions and input. A strong, committed, individual with the ability to be concise and clear in their statements. 3. Maintain member info. Send emails, or call, members on at least a weekly basis...reinforcing the organizing efforts, and pushing to spread the word. 4. Be active in communicating with other leaders. 5. When an action is called upon...be the committed leader. At all costs - be there for the followers and direct with authority. Here's my offer to anyone willing to step up. I'll create a webpage on our site with your contact info, background info, and any other pertinent information you want on that page. I'll maintain any changes you want made on your page (simply email what you want done...within reason.) And I will promote your page however I can. So...do I have any takers? -ss-

First of all S.S. I think you should post this on the forum with a new thread, we have a ton of new visitors and new members are now growing by the day. Second if people, including yourself feel that i would be an effective rep. then i am ready to step up to the plate. I know you don't know me very well yet but i have been Very active the last two months fighting with everything i have. So let me know.. I might not be a trucker myself but with my husband being in the business for approx. 14 yrs.i know the industry pretty well and i joined the truckers forum and i feel as though i have earned the peoples respect here.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer Now that's stepping up people! The regional idea is a good one. It could actually work, I think. Here's my thoughts on what the main responsibility of a rep is... 1. Be the leader for the individuals within that region/state. History shows that people are basically followers and will rise up when there is a leading force. 2. Provide a contact point (email and phone#) which people can call/email with questions and input. A strong, committed, individual with the ability to be concise and clear in their statements. 3. Maintain member info. Send emails, or call, members on at least a weekly basis...reinforcing the organizing efforts, and pushing to spread the word. 4. Be active in communicating with other leaders. 5. When an action is called upon...be the committed leader. At all costs - be there for the followers and direct with authority. Here's my offer to anyone willing to step up. I'll create a webpage on our site with your contact info, background info, and any other pertinent information you want on that page. I'll maintain any changes you want made on your page (simply email what you want done...within reason.) And I will promote your page however I can. So...do I have any takers? -ss-

someone who knows putters could set up one of those auto responce robots
to send out info, to e-mail address.
We need to break the states up.
This could work.
We need to be heard of befor election.

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by lunachic someone who knows putters could set up one of those auto responce robots to send out info, to e-mail address. We need to break the states up. This could work. We need to be heard of befor election.

I believe you are on a roll Luna...

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by TN. TRUCKERS WIFE First of all S.S. I think you should post this on the forum with a new thread, we have a ton of new visitors and new members are now growing by the day. Second if people, including yourself feel that i would be an effective rep. then i am ready to step up to the plate. I know you don't know me very well yet but i have been Very active the last two months fighting with everything i have. So let me know.. I might not be a trucker myself but with my husband being in the business for approx. 14 yrs.i know the industry pretty well and i joined the truckers forum and i feel as though i have earned the peoples respect here.

TTW...after reading your post about the call you got from your representative...I have no doubts about your ability to fill the roll of leader. Talk with your hubby about what you would want to present on a page (such as your "call to Americans" post) and get me some additional background info (you've already provided phone#'s) and I'll get ya set up.

Now the next thing we need to decide is whether it's going to be Tennessee rep, or regional rep...and if regional - how is the country going to be broken up into regions?

Also, TTW, I'll get a new thread up with my offer. Thanks for the suggestion.

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[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer TTW...after reading your post about the call you got from your representative...I have no doubts about your ability to fill the roll of leader. Talk with your hubby about what you would want to present on a page (such as your "call to Americans" post) and get me some additional background info (you've already provided phone#'s) and I'll get ya set up. Now the next thing we need to decide is whether it's going to be Tennessee rep, or regional rep...and if regional - how is the country going to be broken up into regions? Also, TTW, I'll get a new thread up with my offer. Thanks for the suggestion. -ss-

Please tell me what kinda inro you are looking for I don't want to give you my life history, i only want to provide you with the vital info. you need. Please hun, be a little more specific. Also one of the phone #'s i gave you, please don not post on the sight (615-714???) that is my husbands cell and he has to use it all day with his dispatcher. Here is my cell that can be posted (615-714-3057) I am a Verizon customer for anyone worried about using their minutes. Thank you for you confidence in me. Just please give me an idea of what info. you need.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer TTW...after reading your post about the call you got from your representative...I have no doubts about your ability to fill the roll of leader. Talk with your hubby about what you would want to present on a page (such as your "call to Americans" post) and get me some additional background info (you've already provided phone#'s) and I'll get ya set up. Now the next thing we need to decide is whether it's going to be Tennessee rep, or regional rep...and if regional - how is the country going to be broken up into regions? Also, TTW, I'll get a new thread up with my offer. Thanks for the suggestion. -ss-

I think it will prove more effective to go regional.
That will cover States we are not hearing from and union states.
Sorry Teamsters Here we come..........................

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by TN. TRUCKERS WIFE Please tell me what kinda inro you are looking for I don't want to give you my life history, i only want to provide you with the vital info. you need. Please hun, be a little more specific. Also one of the phone #'s i gave you, please don not post on the sight (615-714???) that is my husbands cell and he has to use it all day with his dispatcher. Here is my cell that can be posted (615-714-3057) I am a Verizon customer for anyone worried about using their minutes. Thank you for you confidence in me. Just please give me an idea of what info. you need.

Don't want a lot. Basic info...who you are (ie. my husband and I have been independent for x number of years, why you're involved, what your goal is regarding others within your area, what you are doing currently towards the cause, where you frequently go on the internet (truckersforum.net).) Info such as this. I'll include on your page your statement I published on our site to close out your page info. Basically keep the background info short and to the point. Ideally, I will attempt to keep all the info on your page within the initial viewing area (1024x768.) This allows for a more effective impact. I'll communicate with you when I create the page regarding effectiveness.

I'll look for an email to get started. Don't worry about it needing to be perfect or professional...we'll work together once you get me something to start with and then we'll fine tune it.

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