Boycott

[Wyatt Earp]

while others are still out hauling cheap freight. i sit here looking for loads and watch them get hauled by SCUMBAGS that don't know how to run their businesses

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by Wyatt Earp I understand and agree with the boycotts but that will have no effect on the situations that we as O/Ops are faced with right now. The rates are too low, and no mandatory fuel surcharge in place, and brokers taking too much off the top. I have supported all the shutdowns, and everything else but i am losing my business, my home and everything i own due to me not hauling cheap freight. Where and when will some immediate help come.

He's right, still need a fix, even when or if the fuel lowers the rates wont go up could even drop down.
we need to start to focus on how to save ourselves.
I agree one battle at a time, But what about the o/o?
We need a fast fix. and at this point it needs to be more then just fuel.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by Wyatt Earp while others are still out hauling cheap freight. i sit here looking for loads and watch them get hauled by SCUMBAGS that don't know how to run their businesses

yes but I dont belive it's o/o
9 out of 10 r already shut down.
We have watched who are hauling our loads.
Company trucks.

[BANDIT]

Sorry folks, there is no "Fast Fix". This didn't just happen over night. It took years of all of us sitting back on our asses watching it get worse and worse every year. We all said, "It's got to get better next year". I know, I was one of them who said it every damn year. Well, guess what, It didn't. It got worse and we let it. Now we all want a quick fix, because it's gotten bad enough that we're finally all going broke. Well, like I said, There is no "Quick Fix". It's going to be a long road to get everything that needs changing fixed. If you think for one second you can come up with a miracle cure for all of it over night, I'm sorry for your disappointment. We should have all stepped up years ago when this shit first started and battled back then. We wouldn't be here now if we had. All we can do now is take the time to build ourselves up as strong as we can and Fight Back One Battle At A Time. We started a Boycott with Exxon/Mobile on Mon. May 26th. Tonight on the national news here, they showed a large group of protestors in front of Exxon/Mobile headquarters with signs saying "BOYCOTT EXXON/MOBILE". Only the 3rd day, and our battleline has already gotten to their headquarters. Please don't let this be another failure when it has a real good possibility of being our first big win in a War full of Battles. "YOU CAN"T WIN THE WAR IF YOU WON"T EVEN FIGHT THE FIRST BATTLE". I was proud when I saw the Boycott croud in front of Exxon/Mobile. I know some people here that worked damn hard getting this Battle started. Ya'll Have An Awesome Evening

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by BANDIT Sorry folks, there is no "Fast Fix". This didn't just happen over night. It took years of all of us sitting back on our asses watching it get worse and worse every year. We all said, "It's got to get better next year". I know, I was one of them who said it every damn year. Well, guess what, It didn't. It got worse and we let it. Now we all want a quick fix, because it's gotten bad enough that we're finally all going broke. Well, like I said, There is no "Quick Fix". It's going to be a long road to get everything that needs changing fixed. If you think for one second you can come up with a miracle cure for all of it over night, I'm sorry for your disappointment. We should have all stepped up years ago when this shit first started and battled back then. We wouldn't be here now if we had. All we can do now is take the time to build ourselves up as strong as we can and Fight Back One Battle At A Time. We started a Boycott with Exxon/Mobile on Mon. May 26th. Tonight on the national news here, they showed a large group of protestors in front of Exxon/Mobile headquarters with signs saying "BOYCOTT EXXON/MOBILE". Only the 3rd day, and our battleline has already gotten to their headquarters. Please don't let this be another failure when it has a real good possibility of being our first big win in a War full of Battles. "YOU CAN"T WIN THE WAR IF YOU WON"T EVEN FIGHT THE FIRST BATTLE". I was proud when I saw the Boycott croud in front of Exxon/Mobile. I know some people here that worked damn hard getting this Battle started. Ya'll Have An Awesome Evening

Ur right, but this battle is on it's way, now the people can carry on.
It;s time we start fighting for the trucks o/o.
It takes alot of battles to win a war.
Fuel is just one of the issues.
I heard on the news tonight the price of tires r going up.
Just what we need, steel aready showing.
I'm getting alot of B.S. letters from all the e-mail.
They are just form letters with our names typed in.
We cant wait any longer.
we need some afirmitive action now.
we need to have all requirements for the trucks o/o and small trucking co.
To cease.They need to fine away for us to work.
Aug. tags r due / 2290 are due in a month/ fuel tax's.
how do we do this with know money.
The time has come to fight for the trucks.
It's our right,

[BANDIT]

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Originally Posted by lunachic Ur right, but this battle is on it's way, now the people can carry on. It;s time we start fighting for the trucks o/o. It takes alot of battles to win a war. Fuel is just one of the issues. I heard on the news tonight the price of tires r going up. Just what we need, steel aready showing. I'm getting alot of B.S. letters from all the e-mail. They are just form letters with our names typed in. We cant wait any longer. we need some afirmitive action now. we need to have all requirements for the trucks o/o and small trucking co. To cease.They need to fine away for us to work. Aug. tags r due / 2290 are due in a month/ fuel tax's. how do we do this with know money. The time has come to fight for the trucks. It's our right,

Right there is one big way you can start the fight,,,,2290,,,,You can't afford to pay it. No One Can. Get everyone to refuse to pay it. Get everyone to refuse to pay the fuel taxes. I mean everyone though. We all know by now that the only way any of this works is UNITED. It has to be all or Nothing.

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by BANDIT Right there is one big way you can start the fight,,,,2290,,,,You can't afford to pay it. No One Can. Get everyone to refuse to pay it. Get everyone to refuse to pay the fuel taxes. I mean everyone though. We all know by now that the only way any of this works is UNITED. It has to be all or Nothing.

I don't think you will have to convience people not to pay them i don't think they will have the money to pay...

[BANDIT]

Don't blame us for prices - oil execs
May 21, 2008, CNN
Oil executives go before Congress - May. 21, 2008
Amid increasing public outcry over record-shattering oil and gas prices, senators ... hauled industry executives in to testify about the recent runup. The Senate Judiciary Committee ... grilled executives from Exxon Mobil, ConocoPhillips Co., Shell Oil Co., Chevron and BP as to how their companies can in good conscience make so much money, while American drivers pay so much at the pump. Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill. [asked] "Does it trouble any one of you - the costs you're imposing on families, on small businesses, on truckers?" The hearing marked the second time in as many months that top oil industry officials have been called before Congress. The hearing was ostensibly called to ask the executives why they needed some $18 billion in federal subsidies in light of their record profits, but quickly became a Q&A on bigger questions in the energy business. Lawmakers criticized the firms for not investing enough in finding new oil and developing renewable resources and told them, in thinly disguised terms, that they'd be forced to enact extra profit taxes if Big Oil continued to post such large earnings. Although lawmakers don't vote on energy issues strictly along party lines, Democrats generally want to increase taxes on Big Oil and use the money to fund renewable energy research. Republicans generally favor opening up the Alaska Wildlife Refuge, large parts of the Rocky Mountains, and areas off the east and west coast that have been closed to drilling since the 1970s following a public backlash after several big oil spills.
Oil: A global crisis
May 25, 2008, The Independent (One of the U.K.'s leading newspapers)
Oil: A global crisis - Green Living, Environment - The Independent
The invasion of Iraq by Britain and the US has trebled the price of oil, according to a leading expert, costing the world a staggering $6 trillion in higher energy prices alone. The oil economist Dr Mamdouh Salameh, who advises both the World Bank and the UN Industrial Development Organisation (Unido), [said] that the price of oil would now be no more than $40 a barrel, less than a third of the record $135 a barrel reached last week, if it had not been for the Iraq war. He spoke after oil prices set a new record on 13 consecutive days over the past two weeks. They have now multiplied sixfold since 2002. Goldman Sachs predicted last week that the price could rise to an unprecedented $200 a barrel over the next year. Dr Salameh, director of the UK-based Oil Market Consultancy Service, and an authority on Iraq's oil, said it is the only one of the world's biggest producing countries with enough reserves substantially to increase its flow. Production in eight of the others – the US, Canada, Iran, Indonesia, Russia, Britain, Norway and Mexico – has peaked, he says, while China and Saudia Arabia, the remaining two, are nearing the point at of decline. Before the war, Saddam Hussein's regime pumped some 3.5 million barrels of oil a day, but this had now fallen to just two million barrels. Dr Salameh [said] that Iraq had offered the United States a deal, three years before the war, that would have opened up 10 new giant oil fields on "generous" terms in return for the lifting of sanctions. "This would certainly have prevented the steep rise of the oil price," he said. "But the US had a different idea. It planned to occupy Iraq and annex its oil."

[Greyfoxx]

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Originally Posted by BANDIT Don't blame us for prices - oil execs May 21, 2008, CNN Oil executives go before Congress - May. 21, 2008 Amid increasing public outcry over record-shattering oil and gas prices, senators ... hauled industry executives in to testify about the recent runup. The Senate Judiciary Committee ... grilled executives from Exxon Mobil, ConocoPhillips Co., Shell Oil Co., Chevron and BP as to how their companies can in good conscience make so much money, while American drivers pay so much at the pump. Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill. [asked] "Does it trouble any one of you - the costs you're imposing on families, on small businesses, on truckers?" The hearing marked the second time in as many months that top oil industry officials have been called before Congress. The hearing was ostensibly called to ask the executives why they needed some $18 billion in federal subsidies in light of their record profits, but quickly became a Q&A on bigger questions in the energy business. Lawmakers criticized the firms for not investing enough in finding new oil and developing renewable resources and told them, in thinly disguised terms, that they'd be forced to enact extra profit taxes if Big Oil continued to post such large earnings. Although lawmakers don't vote on energy issues strictly along party lines, Democrats generally want to increase taxes on Big Oil and use the money to fund renewable energy research. Republicans generally favor opening up the Alaska Wildlife Refuge, large parts of the Rocky Mountains, and areas off the east and west coast that have been closed to drilling since the 1970s following a public backlash after several big oil spills. Oil: A global crisis May 25, 2008, The Independent (One of the U.K.'s leading newspapers) Oil: A global crisis - Green Living, Environment - The Independent The invasion of Iraq by Britain and the US has trebled the price of oil, according to a leading expert, costing the world a staggering $6 trillion in higher energy prices alone. The oil economist Dr Mamdouh Salameh, who advises both the World Bank and the UN Industrial Development Organisation (Unido), [said] that the price of oil would now be no more than $40 a barrel, less than a third of the record $135 a barrel reached last week, if it had not been for the Iraq war. He spoke after oil prices set a new record on 13 consecutive days over the past two weeks. They have now multiplied sixfold since 2002. Goldman Sachs predicted last week that the price could rise to an unprecedented $200 a barrel over the next year. Dr Salameh, director of the UK-based Oil Market Consultancy Service, and an authority on Iraq's oil, said it is the only one of the world's biggest producing countries with enough reserves substantially to increase its flow. Production in eight of the others – the US, Canada, Iran, Indonesia, Russia, Britain, Norway and Mexico – has peaked, he says, while China and Saudia Arabia, the remaining two, are nearing the point at of decline. Before the war, Saddam Hussein's regime pumped some 3.5 million barrels of oil a day, but this had now fallen to just two million barrels. Dr Salameh [said] that Iraq had offered the United States a deal, three years before the war, that would have opened up 10 new giant oil fields on "generous" terms in return for the lifting of sanctions. "This would certainly have prevented the steep rise of the oil price," he said. "But the US had a different idea. It planned to occupy Iraq and annex its oil."

Now they are promising $5.00 for regular.

When all else fails .......

Nationalize the Oil Indusrty.

Mexico did it and the diesel price there is $2.07,
How can they do it and still make a profit......
When an industry can make or break a nation there has to be some regulation, rules, some standard of conduct.
Control the Oil Slick terrorists, or hang them!

[BANDIT]

Bribes offered to scientists
2007-02-03, Sydney Morning Herald (Australia's leading newspaper)
<A href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/bribes-offered-to-scientists/2007/02/02/1169919530963.html" target=_blank>http://www.smh.com.au/news/environme...ists/2007/02/0...

Scientists and economists have been offered $10,000 each by a lobby group funded by one of the world's largest oil companies to undermine the UN climate change report. Letters sent by the American Enterprise Institute, an ExxonMobil-funded think tank with close links to the Bush Administration, offered the payments for articles that emphasise the shortcomings of the report. Travel expenses and additional payments were also offered. The institute has received more than $1.6 million from ExxonMobil - which yesterday announced a $50 billion annual profit, the biggest ever by a US company - and more than 20 of its staff have worked as consultants to the Bush Administration. A former head of ExxonMobil, Lee Raymond, is the vice-chairman of the institute's board of trustees.
Note: Why wasn't this important story covered by any major media in the U.S.? For an answer, click here.

[Greyfoxx]

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Originally Posted by BANDIT Bribes offered to scientists 2007-02-03, Sydney Morning Herald (Australia's leading newspaper) <A href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/bribes-offered-to-scientists/2007/02/02/1169919530963.html" target=_blank>http://www.smh.com.au/news/environme...ists/2007/02/0... Scientists and economists have been offered $10,000 each by a lobby group funded by one of the world's largest oil companies to undermine the UN climate change report. Letters sent by the American Enterprise Institute, an ExxonMobil-funded think tank with close links to the Bush Administration, offered the payments for articles that emphasise the shortcomings of the report. Travel expenses and additional payments were also offered. The institute has received more than $1.6 million from ExxonMobil - which yesterday announced a $50 billion annual profit, the biggest ever by a US company - and more than 20 of its staff have worked as consultants to the Bush Administration. A former head of ExxonMobil, Lee Raymond, is the vice-chairman of the institute's board of trustees. Note: Why wasn't this important story covered by any major media in the U.S.? For an answer, click here.

I know your one of the few I don't have to tell you this to, but we are swimming against the tide. Rupert Murdoch's Fox News propaganda machine, If Hitler had had Fox Snews we'd all be speaking Germany today, and have blond hair and blue eyes.

Joseph Goebbels quote

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”


"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”


to my last breath.....

[Greyfoxx]

Thought you all might find this interesting;

A friends husband said that when diesel reached an average of $5.00 Bosie Cascade ( he runs some of their operations on the Oregon coast ) will close all it's mills and logging operations, laying off 11,000 workers.

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by Greyfoxx Thought you all might find this interesting; A friends husband said that when diesel reached an average of $5.00 Bosie Cascade ( he runs some of their operations on the Oregon coast ) will close all it's mills and logging operations, laying off 11,000 workers.

How solid is this info. The powers that be have already decided this is going to happen, so if this is solid info...I may be able to use it to do some good on the hill.

-ss-

[krineck]

A strike is needed, but the strike would have to be at least 10 to 15 days to get anyone's attention. I know it sounds like a long time, and lost money. Let me tell you, you would get it back 10 fold. After 3 days the restaurant's are starting to hurt, after 7 days, the restaurant's are really panicking and the grocery stores are beginning to hurt, after 10 days the restaurant's are closing the grocery stores are panicking. After 15 days the grocery stores are almost out of supplies. The truck drivers in this country need to understand they run this country, without trucks America STOPS!!! If you want to put a stop to all the Crap, All the Drivers need to get enough nerves to stand up and take control back!!! Labor day is to far off, I say July 4 is a good time to start. Plan a two week vacation, or just lay around the house with your family!!

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by krineck A strike is needed, but the strike would have to be at least 10 to 15 days to get anyone's attention. I know it sounds like a long time, and lost money. Let me tell you, you would get it back 10 fold. After 3 days the restaurant's are starting to hurt, after 7 days, the restaurant's are really panicking and the grocery stores are beginning to hurt, after 10 days the restaurant's are closing the grocery stores are panicking. After 15 days the grocery stores are almost out of supplies. The truck drivers in this country need to understand they run this country, without trucks America STOPS!!! If you want to put a stop to all the Crap, All the Drivers need to get enough nerves to stand up and take control back!!! Labor day is to far off, I say July 4 is a good time to start. Plan a two week vacation, or just lay around the house with your family!!

It wont happen, someone will always haul what ever is out their.We all ready did a shutdown. And the trucks kept running.
unless we can get Hoffa to back us. And he wont.

[Cerberus]

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Originally Posted by lunachic It wont happen, someone will always haul what ever is out their.We all ready did a shutdown. And the trucks kept running. unless we can get Hoffa to back us. And he wont.

you sound frustrated young lady. it's always hard to do things when instant results aren't seen or felt.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by Cerberus you sound frustrated young lady. it's always hard to do things when instant results aren't seen or felt.

I am maybe we should become head hunters.
Enough of us out their to locate people, become a org. of STRIKE BREAKERS.
Granted some unions r out of reach but only a few,
example airline ind./actors/
But we can inform the unions that we will break any strike they call.
The teamsters must back us, And all unions should be informed as why.
I sent Jimmy Hoffa a letter when this all started. Would u like to see the reply?


That's right nothing.
It's time we start to take abbraceive actions, and I know my spelling is off,
But for the o/o everything is coming due.
Untill the elections r over all we will get is tomorrow, well How many of us will be here tomorrow.
It's time to make our demands....................
I'm tired and really pissed with the little news that we hear,
has there been any positive outcome.
Oh yea tires are going up, Lets throw some salt on the wounds.
I guess I being tired is not a good time to think.......lol

[Cerberus]

i'm sorry Luna for your pain and frustrations. the southern states always seem to be hit harder and feel the pain first before the northern states. i know what your going thru. it's tough and really gets frustrating at times and we sit back and ask ourselves why the fuck am i doing this ? funny thing is when peopl up north start getting the treatment the south has been dealing with , they will cry harder as they are not used to it. prob;em is there is still freight up north and if your not near a major city in the south then your really getting screwed over. jobs is a good example. try getting a job in the south ,good luck. up north they are still a dime a dozen. everybody is hiring up here still. and if you can find work in the south it's for minimum wage or pretty close to it. why ? because the mexicans haven't moved up north yet. too damn cold. shoot we dropped below 40 degrees last night. half of the south would have frozen to death if they lived up here. i'm still waiting on my info from my dad about florida. he is a busy man and will get it too me as soon as he can. i will post it and people will understand what people are going thru in your neck of the woods. i didn't realize you floridians are getting charged for water run off from rain off the house. he said it was like 60$ a year now. thats crap

[Greyfoxx]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer How solid is this info. The powers that be have already decided this is going to happen, so if this is solid info...I may be able to use it to do some good on the hill. -ss-

I just got off the phone with my friend, she is saying that her husband manages a major operations for Boise. He is saying that Boise Cascade will stop all operations when fuel reaches $5.00, and will not restart operations until fuel drops back below $5.00. I would think that might be the discount price for fuel.

It would be interesting to know how many other's in the lumber industry are planning to do the same. The mill here in town has close two weeks ago. This could help get the message across as to just how bad thing could get, AND why. I'll see if I can find out more.

The Chess Masters are at work.

[SilverSurfer]

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Originally Posted by Greyfoxx I just got off the phone with my friend, she is saying that her husband manages a major operations for Boise. He is saying that Boise Cascade will stop all operations when fuel reaches $5.00, and will not restart operations until fuel drops back below $5.00. I would think that might be the discount price for fuel. It would be interesting to know how many other's in the lumber industry are planning to do the same. The mill here in town has close two weeks ago. This could help get the message across as to just how bad thing could get, AND why. I'll see if I can find out more. The Chess Masters are at work.

I have James Wallner's direct line and personal email (Sen. Sessions legislative assistant,) and would like to include this info in an email to him. I would be making my statement as you have here in refering where, and who, the info came from. Would you mind asking your friends if this would be ok with them. It may be powerful info to use in pointing issues and solutions out within the email.

Thanks
-ss-