TRUCKERS & CITIZENS SHUTDOWN MAY 5, 2008

[I Don't Think So]

very well and fixin to explode gonna gedt a lil warm in the US....lol bout 6000 paper an online signatures and still going up every day mainly on paper......

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by I Don't Think So very well and fixin to explode gonna gedt a lil warm in the US....lol bout 6000 paper an online signatures and still going up every day mainly on paper......

I will continue to use it on everything i put out.

[I Don't Think So]

ty and is there anything we may assist you with as well?

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by I Don't Think So ty and is there anything we may assist you with as well?

When you do this on paper, tell me what you use. heck i can carry one with me in my car and everywhere i go to a store or anywhere take it and ask people to sign it. It is not like anyone is against it. LOL

[I Don't Think So]

we have paper petition that we use as a standard that we use ....

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by I Don't Think So we have paper petition that we use as a standard that we use ....

Why don't you create a thread on the forum for the petition? You could also list the web site so people who are guests here can go there and sign it.

[Wyatt Earp]

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Originally Posted by I Don't Think So Moose this goes back to exactly what i have said there was not enough time from april first to the shutdown. In fact it takes months of planning and advertising to get the unit together, to be able to pull this all off at one time. unfortunately 30 days is not enough time to organize and advertise to 3,000,000 drivers across the nation and to convince alot of the small fleet owners to park is gonna be like pulling teeth asfor they park and they lose ti the big companies. some folks still don't get it on how this is gonna have to work.......

That was plenty of time people are just to scared and i keep hearing the same things. Who's our represenatives, how long for shutdown.

[Out0fTheMist]

TnTruckerswife, Thank you, unfortunately it was too late to get it in our local paper, than I had to rush my mom to the hospital and now nursing her with pneumonia. However, I did stay home on blue Monday lol.
I honestly hope I can be an asset.
As part of the general public I know all of you are trying so hard to help and I also know we really need that help.
Bandit, I know after reading your post you are still reading post so I wanted to let you know, please don't get discouraged and I know it's is easy to get that way (especially when you read the post of the truckers still making money that are so negative towards everyone else), but there are so many gathering behind you, more than you know.
Blessings to all of you and don't forget
^o^ angels on duty watching over you.

[Bullwinkle]

Once again, please think about starting new threads for topics instead of congregating in one thread like this. I just pull about 100 posts out of this thread and created new threads with them and/or put them with other existing threads.

Not closing this thread for now, but please, think about creating new threads for subjects instead of having one long thread like this. Typically, when a thread gets larger that 20-30 posts, you really need to be thinking about whether the topic has gotten off track or not. More threads ultimately bring in more visitors, which in turn brings us more information. Also, separate threads make following conversations much easier.

[Blakowt13]

Staying Home for 1 day or 1 week doesn't mean squat.
No one except your employer will miss you.

The April Fools day shutdown was a disaster as only it could be because of LACK of support and organization. I thought it was hilarious that anyone would actually agree to participate being as how April 1st has a comical reputation for practical jokes.

I will never agree to any one day or one week shutdown because unless the Unions are along, there is NO REASON to attempt ANY citizens/driver shutdown.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by Blakowt13 Staying Home for 1 day or 1 week doesn't mean squat. No one except your employer will miss you. The April Fools day shutdown was a disaster as only it could be because of LACK of support and organization. I thought it was hilarious that anyone would actually agree to participate being as how April 1st has a comical reputation for practical jokes. I will never agree to any one day or one week shutdown because unless the Unions are along, there is NO REASON to attempt ANY citizens/driver shutdown.

Thank-u Thank-u Thank-u
Who ever you are, And the big boys like
Swift, J,B. Hunt ect...........................

[rebel]

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Originally Posted by Blakowt13 Staying Home for 1 day or 1 week doesn't mean squat. No one except your employer will miss you. The April Fools day shutdown was a disaster as only it could be because of LACK of support and organization. I thought it was hilarious that anyone would actually agree to participate being as how April 1st has a comical reputation for practical jokes. I will never agree to any one day or one week shutdown because unless the Unions are along, there is NO REASON to attempt ANY citizens/driver shutdown.

Well... You might be an unwilling participant one day when one of these renegade 'fools' decides he (or she) has got nothing left to lose and shuts down the road you're on. If that happens just get in line and lay on the horn and smile

[Greyfoxx]

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Originally Posted by Blakowt13 Staying Home for 1 day or 1 week doesn't mean squat. No one except your employer will miss you. The April Fools day shutdown was a disaster as only it could be because of LACK of support and organization. I thought it was hilarious that anyone would actually agree to participate being as how April 1st has a comical reputation for practical jokes. I will never agree to any one day or one week shutdown because unless the Unions are along, there is NO REASON to attempt ANY citizens/driver shutdown.

Don't let Bullwinkle hear you say that....

[Bullwinkle]

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Originally Posted by Blakowt13 Staying Home for 1 day or 1 week doesn't mean squat. No one except your employer will miss you. The April Fools day shutdown was a disaster as only it could be because of LACK of support and organization. I thought it was hilarious that anyone would actually agree to participate being as how April 1st has a comical reputation for practical jokes. I will never agree to any one day or one week shutdown because unless the Unions are along, there is NO REASON to attempt ANY citizens/driver shutdown.

Actually, the April 1st shutdown wasn't a disaster, as it had more support than any other shutdown attempt I had seen in a long while.

Where the disaster came in was when everyone starting giving up because they seen trucks still running.

Further shutdown attempts were made, but the momentum was lost amongst a bunch of whining and once again what unity there was among the independents was quickly lost.

I said back when the April 1 shutdown was planned that I had major doubts about it succeeding, but felt it was a good idea to at least try to support it by providing a forum here for those involved to discuss it and network together. No other trucking forum got on board with this because they are all out for themselves.

I risked short term growth of this forum for the goal of trying to help the independents make a success out of this shutdown. I ultimately have suffered with slow growth here as a result, but I don't care. I would do it again if there was a big enough push for another shutdown.

Had the other forums out there stepped up and supported this, I truly believe that there would have been a much, much, higher chance at success. Maybe some day these other forums will take an actual interest in this industry and become truly concerned about it's future, but at this point I doubt it.

[gearjammer]

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Originally Posted by Blakowt13 Staying Home for 1 day or 1 week doesn't mean squat. No one except your employer will miss you. The April Fools day shutdown was a disaster as only it could be because of LACK of support and organization. I thought it was hilarious that anyone would actually agree to participate being as how April 1st has a comical reputation for practical jokes. I will never agree to any one day or one week shutdown because unless the Unions are along, there is NO REASON to attempt ANY citizens/driver shutdown.

you DIDN'T like the april shut down,
you WON'T shut down for one day
you WON'T shut down for one week
you WONT shut down unless the unions are involved

well CONGRATULATIONS, you are a card carring member of the "IT CAN'T BE DONE CROWD"
You should feel proud in how you and other members of you club are able to laugh at the truckers trying to DO something!

you should also feel proud in the way your membership has let big business dictate what the prices are going to be for the independants!!

the reason we cannot get anything done to clean up this business is because you and your fellow members of the "it can't be done crowd" are so successful at convincing people that conditions are not "PERFECT" for shutdown!

come on man get some balls and stand with instead of against the people trying to DO something
tear up the membership card to the "it can't be done club"

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by gearjammer you DIDN'T like the april shut down, you WON'T shut down for one day you WON'T shut down for one week you WONT shut down unless the unions are involved well CONGRATULATIONS, you are a card carring member of the "IT CAN'T BE DONE CROWD" You should feel proud in how you and other members of you club are able to laugh at the truckers trying to DO something! you should also feel proud in the way your membership has let big business dictate what the prices are going to be for the independants!! the reason we cannot get anything done to clean up this business is because you and your fellow members of the "it can't be done crowd" are so successful at convincing people that conditions are not "PERFECT" for shutdown! come on man get some balls and stand with instead of against the people trying to DO something tear up the membership card to the "it can't be done club"

well I know what ur feeling, but I won't agree with ya, unless we have power with us it will not work.
we did shut down, all it did was put us deeper in the hole which is pretty deep right now.
I have said it befor and I'll say it again, We need to go after the teamsters.
are chance of them changing there outlook is greater then swift,hunt ,landstar ect. since they the unions are growing weaker. and the gov. backing and contracts are growing stronger with the big boy's.With the teamster's working with us we will have the power to stop them. If the averg. citizen can see this I don't understand how they don't. The only thing I can think of is they are waiting for the elec. in Nov.Then some will step forward and weather the teamsters will fall in I belive is still of question.If they don't fall in with us I would hope if the time every does come that they grow some and call a strike there is enough o/o and small co's left that we become strike busters and fall in with the big boy's who will.In all area's of industry...steel..mining...fishing...dock workers...ect.
I understand this is just my thought, but it's what I belive.

[Greyfoxx]

Has anyone tried to contact the Teamsters about a Shutdown? If so want was the response, good, bad, or ugly. And does anyone have a phone number for them, I'd like to call them and crew their asses out!

I got another email for my friends in London telling me that the truckers are still blocking streets driving most Londoners to use the transit, and even then the buses are having a hell of a time getting around. Allen tells me that the bus your on could be stopped by a truck blocks up ahead. He says he has been getting off the bus and walking to beyond the truck blocking the street to get on another bus only to ride five or more blocks only to have that bus blocked. He bought a mountain bike to get to work only to have it stolen on the third day. Ellen, Allen's wife is a doctor at one of the hospitals, is now living at the hospital so as not to have to deal with the insanity.

I manage the local Food COOP and members have increase their food orders by as much as 300%. Food items that keep are the top of the list, things like rich and chicken feed. I provide a room in my barn for the food to be delivered to by the trucker, where members can pick up the food boxes when they have the time. From what I can tell the room will be over flowing with the next delivery. People here are beginning to prepare for the worse. We live four hours from the next largest city, in cattle and logging country and at the last city council meeting the idea of putting in hitching posts behind the Mason's hall came up because of all the horses being used to get into and out of town.

What's it been four months that we've talked about a slowdown, or better yet a national shutdown. I would like someone to tell us all just want they think it would take to get the truckers to follow the European trucks lead?

I been pulling what $$ I have left in the bank, getting ready for the worse to come. If Americans are giving up we had all better get ready for the worse. If there is a major disruption in oil we are going to see oil go through the roof. A truckers strike won't matter then.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by Greyfoxx Has anyone tried to contact the Teamsters about a Shutdown? If so want was the response, good, bad, or ugly. And does anyone have a phone number for them, I'd like to call them and crew their asses out! I got another email for my friends in London telling me that the truckers are still blocking streets driving most Londoners to use the transit, and even then the buses are having a hell of a time getting around. Allen tells me that the bus your on could be stopped by a truck blocks up ahead. He says he has been getting off the bus and walking to beyond the truck blocking the street to get on another bus only to ride five or more blocks only to have that bus blocked. He bought a mountain bike to get to work only to have it stolen on the third day. Ellen, Allen's wife is a doctor at one of the hospitals, is now living at the hospital so as not to have to deal with the insanity. I manage the local Food COOP and members have increase their food orders by as much as 300%. Food items that keep are the top of the list, things like rich and chicken feed. I provide a room in my barn for the food to be delivered to by the trucker, where members can pick up the food boxes when they have the time. From what I can tell the room will be over flowing with the next delivery. People here are beginning to prepare for the worse. We live four hours from the next largest city, in cattle and logging country and at the last city council meeting the idea of putting in hitching posts behind the Mason's hall came up because of all the horses being used to get into and out of town. What's it been four months that we've talked about a slowdown, or better yet a national shutdown. I would like someone to tell us all just want they think it would take to get the truckers to follow the European trucks lead? I been pulling what $$ I have left in the bank, getting ready for the worse to come. If Americans are giving up we had all better get ready for the worse. If there is a major disruption in oil we are going to see oil go through the roof. A truckers strike won't matter then.

I did know reply, I sent e-mails to the ones who would accept them and snail-mail to Jimmy Hoffa Jr. who wont accept e-mail.

[BANDIT]

[quote=Greyfoxx;18649]Has anyone tried to contact the Teamsters about a Shutdown? If so want was the response, good, bad, or ugly. And does anyone have a phone number for them, I'd like to call them and crew their asses out!

Foxx and Luna, I don't know if you recall, but quite awhile back I made a post about the teamsters union. I can't remember what thread it was on, but at the time we were talking about getting the teamsters to get in line with us. I explained then, that the teamsters union is now in bed with the government. Way back when Fitzsimmons took over as their president, he sold them out to the gov. and the gov. has controlled everything they do since. How many strikes have you seen called by the teamsters in recent years? You won't see any either. Our government tells the teamsters bosses what to do and what not to do. You will never get them to back a protest against the government. You have a better chance of getting the government to shut down itself. Sorry, but it's fact....the teamsters union isn't a Union anymore....it's just a name.

[lunachic]

[quote=BANDIT;18707]

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Originally Posted by Greyfoxx Has anyone tried to contact the Teamsters about a Shutdown? If so want was the response, good, bad, or ugly. And does anyone have a phone number for them, I'd like to call them and crew their asses out! Foxx and Luna, I don't know if you recall, but quite awhile back I made a post about the teamsters union. I can't remember what thread it was on, but at the time we were talking about getting the teamsters to get in line with us. I explained then, that the teamsters union is now in bed with the government. Way back when Fitzsimmons took over as their president, he sold them out to the gov. and the gov. has controlled everything they do since. How many strikes have you seen called by the teamsters in recent years? You won't see any either. Our government tells the teamsters bosses what to do and what not to do. You will never get them to back a protest against the government. You have a better chance of getting the government to shut down itself. Sorry, but it's fact....the teamsters union isn't a Union anymore....it's just a name.

Oh I remeber, that but I belive they are about to be sold out, They are weak now, like never befor. And u will start to see them fold, If they don't take a stand now.
swift,hunt, landstar, ect hold more power then they, And are in bed tighter with the Gov. and ur right they are nothing more then just a name. The sad thing is they can regain the respect of the people if they would just speak up instead of hiding from the truth.
grayfoxx just google teamster's u will find them.
If they wait till the elec. it will be too late.