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    This is nothing more than an attempt by the trucking companies to get mexican truckers to haul the freight at a lower rate and cut the American truckers out! That is all this is about and nothing more. Power and greed drives the government as well as trucking companies in general to do things for an improvement of the bottom line and to hell with anything or anyone else!

    One more thing. How can this be safe? If a man can not speak or read english then why in the hell should they be allowed to drive in this country? This is all about GREED!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullwinkle View Post
    As trade war looms, Obama will ask Congress to approve Mexican trucking plan

    The Obama administration is moving quickly to head off a trade war with Mexico over allowing Mexican truckers access to the United States.

    Congress axed funding for the Department of Transportation’s cross-border demonstration project on March 10, and Mexico retaliated by raising tariffs on U.S. goods ranging from fresh onions and household appliances to wine and yarn.

    All told, the tariffs could cost U.S. exporters some $2.4 billion in lost sales.

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    Well from the stats that Biker put up a week or so ago, with the U.S. having about 85% of the money and Canada and Mexico splitting the rest (NAFTA trade), I'd say we win hands down in a trade war. So what's the problem?
    As far as $2.4 billion is concerned, divided among all those big corporations, that's a drop in the bucket.
    So as usual, I say to anyone who wants to take on this country, "If you want some, come get some."

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    Unfortunately, the President doesn't agree with your idea, Rebel.

    We have an administration that is ready to cave at the feet of Mexico, and a large group of organizations that are supporting it with nothing but their "bottom line" as a concern.

    Now, will the majority of the Nation that doesn't want this find a way to make a stand yet again, or are we about to submit to Mexican Trucks becoming a regular thing to see on our highways. (Highways that we already can't seem to afford to properly maintain)

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    I agree with you 150% blue skies.By the way you have a nice screenname but man is it a long name.LOL But anyway you're right it is all about greed.They've been talking about this for along while and chances are it'll happen soon.They say mexican drivers are safer drivers then americans are.Bullcrap have you seen they way they drive in Larado and how they treat their equipment.Like you said only reasons companies here in the states will hire them because they are cheaper.As far as our lauguage goes,there should be a law that they must learn american english.But that won't happen.When Carter was president,he let vietnamese into our country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullwinkle View Post
    Unfortunately, the President doesn't agree with your idea, Rebel.
    I guess I'll have to put my powers of persuasion to work then.

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    I apologize bull if me calling mexicans wetbacks offends you or anyone here.I don't care what minority you are it's wrong to let them into our country to take over our jobs and leave us without work.Obamas goal is to make peace between all nations before his term is up and that just isn't going to happen.He needs to starts looking after his own country instead of calling America arrogant and looking after taking care of every other country but his own ,the one that unfortunately elected him as president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebel View Post
    Well from the stats that Biker put up a week or so ago, with the U.S. having about 85% of the money and Canada and Mexico splitting the rest (NAFTA trade), I'd say we win hands down in a trade war. So what's the problem?
    As far as $2.4 billion is concerned, divided among all those big corporations, that's a drop in the bucket.
    So as usual, I say to anyone who wants to take on this country, "If you want some, come get some."
    Dammit...Rebel. I do believe that was I, if I'm not mistaken.

    Bull makes a very important point about who we're up against. And I will add, with this current administration...we're battling an extremely difficult fight. If ALL truckers don't begin to come together and speak out on this issue...y'all might as well consider this a done deal.

    -ss-

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    Well here is what our REAL president says..

    Pelosi sees Mexican truck program's revival as unlikely


    10:16 AM CDT on Saturday, April 4, 2009


    By DAVE MICHAELS and TODD J. GILLMAN / The Dallas Morning News


    WASHINGTON – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi cast doubt Friday on the possibility that Congress would revive a program that allows Mexican truckers to operate in the U.S.
    Congress killed the program last month, prompting Mexico to hike tariffs on about 90 U.S. imports including produce, red wine and consumer goods.
    "I don't see a change coming," Pelosi said Friday in a roundtable discussion with regional reporters. "The president may have some other views, and we'll see what he has to say about it. But I don't see any change."
    The White House has tried to end the trade dispute by assigning Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood to design a program that meets North American Free Trade Agreement regulations but is palatable to lawmakers.
    U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk said Friday that the administration has assured Mexico it will try to resolve the dispute "sooner rather than later." But Kirk wasn't sure there was a way to persuade Mexico to drop the tariffs, short of Congress lifting the restrictions.
    The Teamsters union and the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association told LaHood this week that they remain opposed to Mexican trucks transporting goods on U.S. highways, citing concerns about safety and a lack of regulation in Mexico.
    "They will continue to find hurdles because they are philosophically opposed to NAFTA and because they are opposed to competition from Mexican drivers with our own drivers," said Janet Kavinoky, director of transportation infrastructure for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, who attended a meeting with LaHood this week.
    The Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association says Mexico should improve the data it keeps on accidents and citations for its truckers. It also says U.S. truckers won't go south of the border now because of drug-related violence in Mexico.
    "The idea this trade agreement is reciprocal in any way, shape or form is lunacy," said Todd Spencer, executive vice president of the independent drivers association, which represents U.S. professional truckers. "U.S. trucks aren't safe south of the border, and Mexico can't assure anything in that area."
    Kirk, a former Dallas mayor, said that Mexico had the right to retaliate under NAFTA rules.
    He said Congress ignored the "quiet objections" of his office and the White House when it killed the program.
    Mexico levied the highest tariff on imported grapes, which mostly come from California, the home state of Pelosi and many other powerful Democrats in Congress. The duties target about $2.4 billion worth of U.S. exports.
    "The reality is that we have to make sure that whatever restraints that we put on trade are rules-based, are science-based and, to the degree that we can, are not just driven by emotional or just purely political factors," Kirk said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patriciajnsn View Post
    I apologize bull if me calling mexicans wetbacks offends you or anyone here.I don't care what minority you are it's wrong to let them into our country to take over our jobs and leave us without work.Obamas goal is to make peace between all nations before his term is up and that just isn't going to happen.He needs to starts looking after his own country instead of calling America arrogant and looking after taking care of every other country but his own ,the one that unfortunately elected him as president.

    Not to get to political here but..........
    The reason people elected him because all they heard was change change change but never heard what kind of change. They thought that compared to GWB any change would be good but i now wonder how many of them are happy with the change that they are getting from him! Obama/Democrats are not doing anything with this country's best interest right now,you could also say that about the Republicans as well because up until the past few months they have done little to stop them. The $13.5 trillion dollars spent on bailouts since Oct 08 should be enough evidence of that and now the Mexican trucker crap! Crap that OBAMA said he was not in favor of while running for president!!! Hell he has gone back just about all of his campaign promises so why should this be any different.

    Anytime you hear someone in our government talking about....say hours of service, it's always because of safety. When they speak of little black boxes in trucks, it's because of safety.When they speak of left lane restrictions, it's because of safety. But allowing a bunch of guys into this country who dont know the rules of the roads here in the US or cant read the road signs or warning signs is safe? If never been about safety,it's always been about the money,ALWAYS!

    The trucking industry much like the United States of America is in need of some kind of revolution! The powers that be are not going to change anything that does follow with there plans. If it's not about not about more power and more money for them then they dont give a crap!

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    luap was telling me about this during his home time. I don't think I like the idea of having people, who do not have the same requirements we do, travelling into our country. it is my understanding that US has strict guidelines about the trucking industry and everyone must abide by them. It's kinda like playing russian roulette and the russians have the upper hand and won't be accountable for their actions if something does go wrong. Not feeling warm and fuzzy about that at all.

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