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Old 05-08-2008   #1
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hey ya'll talking about high fuel prices and what not i have begun a campaign at I DOn't Think So Petitions if emailing every single politician in washington what i need is someone with access to a fax to help with this effort everyday as well and then our voice will truly be heard in DC ps i started with the president and working my way down
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Yeah thats wrong what the americandriver site did i have the truckersforum listed in the links page and in the forums of Idts.us

The letter i have addressed to 45 of the US officials is as follows:

We The People Of the United States Of America have decided that it is about time the U.S. Government work for us instead of We The People working for the government Sir.
We the people of the United States of America are being gouged at the Fuel pump! Inflation and general prices are rising due to rising Fuel prices. We are writing to express our deep concern over the extreme increase in Our Nation's Fuel Prices.

We the undersigned feel that the government should take action in lowering the taxes that are levied against the price of fuel. We also believe that your agencies which have responsibility under federal law to enforce the laws against monopolies and unfair competition should immediately commence an inquiry into current oil industry market structure market concentration and business practices to determine whether any unfair or anti-competitive activity is taking place or whether the recent trends towards increased market concentration should be reversed by government antitrust action.

Also we urge the President to immediately suspend all oil purchased each day from going to the Strategic Petroleum Reserves
And Increase the production of the said petroleum for consumer use. We urge you to take action now to Help bring relief to consumers who are paying the price at the Fuel pump. Remembering that it is us "The People" who employ you.


What we plan to do is to work with our U.S. Senators and Congress People to pass a bill that will do just exactly what the petition above demands. Remembering that the American people are the ones that are suffering not only at the fuel pump but with everything they are purchasing at the store as well.

The reason we chose to pick this up and run with it is that we as a society are suffering on several levels not only at the pump but also in places such as the grocery store with our home heating bills airline fares for those that fly bus fares for those that travel via bus lines and in all other areas of travel. And the hardest hit areas like the trucking industry who supplies every store gas station and anyplace you have ever bought anything.

As we have all heard a lot of truckers in the industry are losing their jobs at this point as this economy has driven them straight out of business or in the case of company drivers in big companies there have been disastrous layoffs.

We feel as a society it is about time that the U.S. Government stop talking about future change and start in the here and now as for this is where the general population of the U.S. Has to live we don't have the luxury of standing back and passing the buck to the next elected officials in line we have to live this on an everyday basis.

Thank You Very Much For Taking The Time To Read This Sir.

Sincerely
David W. Jaworski
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we also have a post on congress.org with the letter to several more
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Separated from the May 5 shutdown discussion, good luck with the campaign.
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Separated from the May 5 shutdown discussion, good luck with the campaign.
Here Moose read this and we are continuing with the fuel petiton still as always but now on a new level and thanks for starting the new thread for me ......

The U.S. House of Representatives voted to hold Big Oil accountable today when it passed H.R. 5351, the “Renewable Energy and Energy Conservation Tax Act of 2008,” which repeals nearly $18 billion in oil company subsidies over the next decade and dedicates the money to renewable energy and energy efficiency investments. Now the Senate must follow suit to help bring Americans relief at the pump and lay the groundwork for the type of clean energy investments we need to combat climate change.
Congress is right to shift subsidies away from Big Oil to clean, sustainable alternatives because the oil industry, fueled by $100-per-barrel oil, not only continues to enjoy record profits, but has been spending more money buying back stock than on reinvesting in our nation’s energy infrastructure. If Big Oil refuses to make the necessary investments that America needs to compete in a carbon-constrained future, then it is only fair for Congress to revoke recently awarded subsidies to the oil industry.
Indeed, since 2005 the largest five oil companies operating in America – ExxonMobil, Shell, BP, Chevron and ConocoPhillips – not only posted combined profits of $345 billion, but spent an additional $252 billion buying back their stock and paying dividends to shareholders. In addition, the five companies currently have $53 billion in cash. And companies such as ExxonMobil are spending 50 percent more buying back their stock ($31.8 billion in 2007 alone) than on capital and exploration expenditures for their entire global operations ($20.9 billion).
The primary Big Oil giveaway that H.R. 5351 targets for repeal was enacted into law in 2004. By freezing the domestic production deduction only for major integrated oil companies, Big Oil companies will rightly be denied $13.6 billion in tax breaks over the next decade. In addition, the legislation would close a loophole that allows some oil companies with foreign operations to pay less in U.S. taxes. Closing this loophole will force oil companies to pay $4 billion more to the U.S. Treasury over the next decade.
With this new revenue, the legislation provides critical funding for key renewable energy and energy efficiency investments, some of which can directly benefit families struggling with high energy costs.

Among its highlights, the bill will:
  • extend the production tax credit for renewable energy, such as wind and solar, through 2011 at a cost of $6.6 billion over the next 10 years;
  • extend and expand the solar energy and fuel cell investment tax credit through 2016 at a cost of $620 million over 10 years;
  • extend the credit for residential solar property through 2014 and double the amount households can claim (from $2,000 to $4,000) at a cost of $630 million;
  • extend the tax credit for making energy efficient improvements to existing homes through 2009 at a cost of $1.5 billion;
  • create a new $4,000 credit for motorists purchasing qualified hybrid vehicles at a cost of $1.3 billion over the next decade;
  • extend the deduction for energy-efficient commercial buildings and the credit for manufacturers to produce more energy-efficient appliances.
  • authorize renewable energy bonds for public power and rural co-ops, which will cost $640 million;
  • provide for new tax-exempt bonds for “green” community programs at a cost of $2 billion; and
  • provide various incentives for bio-diesel and ethanol at a cost of $300 million.
Sign the petition at I DON'T THINK SO [Fuel Petition] U.S. National Fuel Petition

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It's a catch 22 folks.

There are two things going against the American driver. If a strike or government intervention were to force fuel prices down to the point that truckers were able to make a profit again the demand for diesel and gasoline would go through the roof, and that would raise prices all over again so its a bit like a snake eating it's own tail .... we're damned if we do, and we're damned if we don't .... in short we're stuck in a catch 22. The only thing that will drive fuel prices down is bringing the new oil fields in the US on line, and that won't do it unless the oil companies build more refineries. More oil means nothing if you can't refine it.

So why are we short on refineries? Our lying lap dog legislators allowed the merger of all the major oil companies in the U.S. They lied when they said that the mergers would increase competition .... what a cock! The oil companies were allowed ot merge, and the first thing they did is shut down over 150 refineries. The lap dogs ignored all evidence proving that by lowering the number of oil companies it would in reality raise fuel prices, and wala higher fuel prices. Everyone with half a brain knew they were spewing more lap-dog moronic logic, but when did our (their) lying lap dog legislators ever lessen to the public? So here we are, still stuck with the same lap-dog legislators that have the instants of a corporate CEO. We are the problem ..... because we keep electing incompetent lap-dogs.

So the question is, will the oil companies ever build the refineries to refine enough oil to bring prices down ...... will Bush be remembered as the people's president, is there really a Santa or an Easter Bunny?

The only way to pull the very last rabbit out of the hat is to ....

BOYCOTT EXXON/MOBIL,
for as long as it takes!!
Why EXXON/MOBIL, because they are on every other corner in the U.S.
In reality that won't work either because there are just to many sheep in the U.S.
Please, someone prove me wrong, please!

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Speaking of lapdogs check this out did you know about this?

On February 27, 2008, Your Rep. Burton voted to protect Big Oil companies when he cast a vote AGAINST HR 5351 which would have repealed $18 billion in tax breaks that big oil companies currently enjoy. You can read about this here
Public Citizen | Press Room - Big Oil Can Afford to Forgo Tax Breaks – But Renewable Energy Can’t; Congress Must Reform Subsidies, End Giveaways, Support Clean Energy
That may be because Rep. Burton has accepted $14,500 from oil company Political Action Committees. You must contact him and tell him to stop taking big oil's money and start looking out for the needs of working Americans!

U.S. Rep. Dan Burton
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Telephone: (877) 846-2936
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It's a catch 22 folks.

There are two things going against the American driver. If a strike or government intervention were to force fuel prices down to the point that truckers were able to make a profit again the demand for diesel and gasoline would go through the roof, and that would raise prices all over again so its a bit like a snake eating it's own tail .... we're damned if we do, and we're damned if we don't .... in short we're stuck in a catch 22. The only thing that will drive fuel prices down is bringing the new oil fields in the US on line, and that won't do it unless the oil companies build more refineries. More oil means nothing if you can't refine it.

So why are we short on refineries? Our lying lap dog legislators allowed the merger of all the major oil companies in the U.S. They lied when they said that the mergers would increase competition .... what a cock! The oil companies were allowed ot merge, and the first thing they did is shut down over 150 refineries. The lap dogs ignored all evidence proving that by lowering the number of oil companies it would in reality raise fuel prices, and wala higher fuel prices. Everyone with half a brain knew they were spewing more lap-dog moronic logic, but when did our (their) lying lap dog legislators ever lessen to the public? So here we are, still stuck with the same lap-dog legislators that have the instants of a corporate CEO. We are the problem ..... because we keep electing incompetent lap-dogs.

So the question is, will the oil companies ever build the refineries to refine enough oil to bring prices down ...... will Bush be remembered as the people's president, is there really a Santa or an Easter Bunny?

The only way to pull the very last rabbit out of the hat is to ....

BOYCOTT EXXON/MOBIL,
for as long as it takes!!
Why EXXON/MOBIL, because they are on every other corner in the U.S.
In reality that won't work either because there are just to many sheep in the U.S.

Please, someone prove me wrong, please!
I agree with the boycott 100% We are discussing this on Bandit's thread, PRIORITIZE. Lunachic and I had started working on this right before she left. Let's get this off and running.
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I think I gave you the wrong website, sorry about that....
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I think I gave you the wrong website, sorry about that....
I went there, it's fine. I'm going to take some late night quite time and catch up on some of these sights. Thank you.....
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Priortizing is key if anything in this whole thing is goin to work i can say that we ALL need to email our congress people i personally have email every single politician in washington letting them know that we the people are coming to see them
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Would you be ok with my publishing of your previous post outlining information with the link to the online petition?

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absolutely you may republish anything i post here as it is all information for release to the public and the public needs to know the truth about whats going on in Washington!!!!! I also encourage all citizens not only to do the above but also call, fax, write, and email the federal government everyday until they actually do something about this the more attention we pull towards this and the more the people of this great land stand up the sooner we can force washington to do the right thing . we are also looking to stage rallies and what not in every state in the nation.

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This is the kind of response i am starting to get finally from several US Sentators:


Dear Mr. Jaworski:

Thank you for contacting me regarding high oil and gasoline prices. I fully share your concerns; and I am working to alleviate the pain at the pump on several fronts through a number of legislative measures that are intended to ease gas prices, increase oversight of energy markets, prevent price gouging, increase fuel efficiency and vehicle fuel economy standards, reduce America's dependence on foreign sources of oil, and increase tax benefits for renewable energy and conservation.

As you well know, America's drivers are paying exorbitant prices to fill their tanks; and the U.S. economy is beginning to suffer along with the country's consumers. In the spring of 2007, gasoline prices surged over $3.00 per gallon, stayed near that level during the summer driving season, and, after a brief retreat, returned there at the beginning of 2008 and have been steadily climbing ever since then. The price of oil accounts for at least half the price that consumers pay for gasoline at the pump. Unfortunately, oil prices are volatile and rising over the long term. At the same time, consumption of gasoline has continued to rise above nine million barrels per day (mbd), setting a record high summer peak of over 9.7 mbd during 2007.

Meanwhile, oil companies are enjoying record profits, thanks, in no small part, to a conscious strategy on their part to reduce our country's refining capacity. Overall, a large number of factors have combined to put pressure on gasoline prices, the fundamental reason being the shrinking margin between global oil demand and global oil supply. The increased world demand for crude oil and limited U.S. refinery capacity to supply gasoline to a growing national economy, combined with the war and continued violence in Iraq, has added to the atmosphere of uncertainty. Threats of supply disruption have also added pressure, particularly to the commodity futures markets.

Over the years, industry insiders have advised U.S. oil companies to reduce spare refining capacity as a way to boost profits. As one Chevron memo paraphrased the advice, "if the U.S. petroleum industry doesn't reduce its refining capacity, it will never see any substantial increase in refining margins." The oil companies heeded the advice with a vengeance; by 2004, idle refining capacity in the United States was a third of what it had been ten years earlier. In May 2007, along with other members of the Connecticut delegation, I requested an investigation by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) into the possible role of refinery outages, planned and unplanned, on gasoline prices and refinery company profits.

Between 1999 and 2004, the profit margin of U.S. refiners increased 80 percent. The widening profit margin would stimulate new competitors to enter the domestic refining market, if only the market were competitive. Unfortunately, the federal government's antitrust enforcers have stood by as oil companies have merged and merged again. Now the remaining behemoths are powerful enough to block new entrants. According to GAO, the increased market concentration caused by the mergers had led to higher wholesale gasoline prices.

In view of the important concerns you raised, I welcome this opportunity to bring you up to date on the many actions I have taken, both past and present, to address high oil and gas prices as outlined below:

· Continued high gasoline prices have placed the energy issue at the forefront of legislative debate and led to a broad spectrum of proposed new legislation during this 110th Congress. For instance, after much debate, the Energy Independence and Security Act (CLEAN Energy Act; H.R. 6), which was passed by Congress, with my support, and signed into law by President Bush in December 2007 (P.L. 110-140), includes several forward-looking policies that I played a key role in advancing and which promise to enhance economic and national security and help end America's crippling oil dependence. These include substantially reducing our reliance on a global oil market that is dominated by volatile, and even hostile, foreign governments; an increase in the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards for automobiles and light trucks; and an increase in the requirement for the use of renewable fuel sources that have lower net greenhouse gas emissions, such as the use and development of cellulosic biofuels, electric vehicles, hybrid or plug-in electric cars, fuel cell powered cars, and advanced diesel, starting in 2016.

· On October 18, 2007, Senator John Warner (R-VA) and I introduced the Lieberman-Warner Climate Security Act (S. 2191), a new, bipartisan, economy-wide, cap-and-trade bill which contains a number of provisions also aimed at reducing dependence on foreign oil. In addition to addressing the problem of climate change, the bill also works to bring other, domestically produced fuels and technologies that do not use gasoline at all into the market to compete with gasoline and drive prices down.

· We must reintroduce competition and crack down on exploitative pricing throughout the oil industry. To that end, Congress should pass legislation along the lines of Senator Maria Cantwell's (D-WA) Clean Energy Development for a Growing Economy (Clean EDGE) Act, which I proudly cosponsored during the 109th Congress, in order to go after the oil industry's anti-competitive practices. Provisions in the Clean EDGE Act would give the Federal Trade Commission new authority to prohibit anti-consumer practices in the oil industry; direct GAO to investigate the federal government's response to consolidation in the oil industry; prohibit oil companies from withholding sales or diverting supplies with the intent of inflating prices; and outlaw excessive increases in the prices of petroleum products.

· This Congress, I supported additional legislative efforts to increase oversight of energy markets by signing on as an original cosponsor of the Oil and Gas Traders Oversight Act (S. 577), bipartisan legislation introduced by Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) to increase transparency and accountability for the electronic over-the-counter trading of energy commodities, such as oil, natural gas, coal, and electricity. Furthermore, I am a cosponsor of the Oil Industry Merger Antitrust Enforcement Act (S. 878), sponsored by Senators Herb Kohl (D-WI) and Arlen Specter (R-PA), to help restore competitive conditions to the oil refining industry. I also have sponsored past legislation that would impose a 50-percent tax on windfall profits from oil produced by integrated oil companies. The revenue generated by the tax would help low- and middle-income consumers who just came through a winter of soaring home heating costs and are now facing a summer of record-high gasoline prices.

· Moreover, I supported legislation, along with several of my Senate colleagues, that would immediately reduce upward pressure on the price of gasoline by suspending purchases of oil for the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR). The Strategic Petroleum Reserve Fill Suspension and Consumer Protection Act (S. 2598), introduced by Senator Bryon Dorgan (D-ND), authorizes a one-year suspension from filling the SPR through royalty-in-kind transfers, direct purchase, or any other acquisition measure. At a time of historic high oil prices, a time-out from government oil purchase will ease pressures on the market and offer reduced prices to consumers. This legislation provides the necessary signal to the market by not diverting oil to fill the SPR. Now is not the time to divert oil from the market when we are experiencing record oil prices, rising consumer energy costs and other economic burdens, an economic downturn, and a tightening of global oil supplies.

· Most recently, on April 17, 2008, I cosponsored legislation (S. 2890), introduced by Senator John McCain (R-AZ), to provide for a highway fuel tax holiday. I am also supporting an amendment offered by Senators McCain and Jon Kyl (R-AZ) for a gas tax holiday that would waive the federal gasoline tax from Memorial Day to Labor Day.

· Ultimately, the only permanent solution to high fuel prices and to free ourselves from recurring fuel price spikes at the whim of volatile and even hostile oil-producing nations is to end our oil addiction. That means sharply decreasing the amount of oil that our vehicles use. The United States simply cannot drill its way out of this bind; and any amount of oil produced from new wells in the United States would just be a trickle in the global oil market. Thus, any domestic drilling would not have any appreciable effect on the price Americans pay on that market.

To this end, I, along with Senators Evan Bayh (D-IN), Sam Brownback (R-KS), Norm Coleman (R-MN), and others, introduced bipartisan legislation aimed at breaking America's dependence on oil. Through a variety of steps, our Dependence Reduction through Innovation in Vehicles and Energy (DRIVE Act; S. 339) would reduce U.S. oil use by seven million barrels per day in 20 years - more than twice what we import from the Middle East today. To implement these savings, the DRIVE Act would set rising targets for manufacturers to produce flexible fuel, alternative fuel, hybrid, plug-in hybrid, and fuel cell vehicles; institute loan guarantees, grants, and tax credits to promote sales of those vehicles; mandate the development of fuel efficiency standards for heavy-duty vehicles; eliminate the current tax break for purchases of heavy sport utility vehicles (SUVs); require the federal government to improve the fuel efficiency of its vehicle fleets; institute a program for increasing the use of fuel-saving tires; and institute a series of other critical measures for increasing domestic production of ethanol fuel.

For more information on S. 339 and other energy security efforts I have authored and championed, please click on this link on my web site outlining my work on energy independence at: http://lieberman.senate.gov/issues/energyindependence.cfm. To keep track of future actions on S. 339 and the other legislation referenced in this letter, you can go to the "Bill Tracking" service at http://lieberman.senate.gov/issues/resources.

Please be assured that I am committed to seeing these strong, common-sense measures passed into law during this 110th Congress.Also, to find what gasoline stations are charging in your area, please go to my home page at Joe Lieberman, Senator from Connecticut and click on the "Rising Gas Prices" link under "Connecticut Corner" on the left-hand side of the page.
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Thank you again for sharing your views, concerns, and suggestions with me. I hope you will continue to visit my web site at Joe Lieberman, Senator from Connecticut for updated news about my work on behalf of Connecticut and the nation. Please contact me if you have any additional questions or comments about our work in Congress.

Sincerely,


Joseph I. Lieberman
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and there is alot more where that came from this is just an example of one returned email WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and thats all US Citizens will win this fight against high oil prices. but i can't do this alone, Bob Heath my co-founder of the I Don't Think So Organization and i need the general publics help on this issue if we are to make this work.

Things such as follows:

1. Pass out petition and collect signatures in your area.
2. Writing, Faxing, Emailing, and calling your public officials daily.
3. setting up Fundraisers in your local communities as we will need a lobbyist to cut through some of the red tape in D.C. to get our (THE PEOPLES BILL) introduced into congress for consideration.
4. We WILL be attending political functions all across the nation calling on our political officials to answer the American General Public about why there has not been enforcement of anti-trust laws and other laws broken in this Country every single day of the week.
5.And last but not least let remember that we the American people hire who we want to do the jobs in Washington and are by no means bound to elect the same officials everytime an election comes around lets make sure we know who we are dealing with, Treat that like its a job interview would you hire someone not in good standing with the community?

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Hey folks dropping a new line in here we finally got all the site updates done and have the new forums and online store on there as well check us out IDTS - U.S. National Fuel Petition
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The national average retail price of a gallon of diesel was unchanged at $4.692 for the week ending June 16. The price is 3.1 cents lower than the record high of $4.723 set May 27, according to the U.S. Department of Energy. Yet, it's $1.887 higher than the same week last year. The average U.S. price now has been above $4 for 10 weeks.
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Democrats offer another bill to curb oil speculation - Jun. 23, 2008
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Notice it's only the commodities traders saying this action by our government (finally) is a bad thing. Imagine that...it's a bad thing? Yea right!...for who?

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Very good post, the thing that really gets me is the traders who say that placing restrictions, closing loop holes could make things worse. Worse for who? For them maybe. Why should they be able to continue back and STEAL from us.
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