HOW WELL IS TRUCKING IN THE STOCK MARKET

[Flatbedpete]

This is what it is.
UPS
FED EX
JB HUNT

all listed, and in my opinion serious drops in the market as high as over a 100 points. Investors won't stand for that long.

So its not just us hurting, the big boys are getting their fair share of the losses now also. It won't take to many more drops like this and then watch the investors pull out their money. When that happens they are done

[SilverSurfer]

You honestly weren't believing the statements that the big trucking companies weren't being effected as well, were you? Don't take that wrong...it's meant as a funny haha.

There isn't a single trucking company, big or small, that's going to survive this situation. And the testimony given before a Senate committee over a week ago was provided by Dave Berry with Swift. They're feeling it as well.

-ss-

[Flatbedpete]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer You honestly weren't believing the statements that the big trucking companies weren't being effected as well, were you? Don't take that wrong...it's meant as a funny haha. There isn't a single trucking company, big or small, that's going to survive this situation. And the testimony given before a Senate committee over a week ago was provided by Dave Berry with Swift. They're feeling it as well. -ss-

I understood the joke part. I just didn't think it would effect the big companies this fast

I have a question, and that question does not have an answer. I know fuel is going to go up again tomorrow. The question I have is this. Have we lost the war? The reason I ask this is because we are having no effect on government at this point, sure we are making news on high fuel prices, but there is no action on what plan we have for this situation. The only plan I see getting implemented is the plan for Marshall law. It is getting tested in small communities to see what the people will do. The government is desperately trying to change the bill of rights and now mainly the second amendment. So what I am looking at in the long run is we are going to be expected to uprise and the government is getting ready for that. They have no intension to fix the problem they have created, and I am now getting tired of paying for their screw ups. In the last nine years I have been battling in our courts of law on civil issues. JUST FOR THE RECORD I WON we have a new thing called tort law. This law was set in place to protect the government against civil action against them for wrong doing. The only way to win this war here is to just let people go broke. The question is who is going to pay for all of this later. We have a serious problem here. In Chicago not to far from us they have had an amazing increase of shootings with a much higher rate of injury and death. These people are not just shooting in the air no more, they are aiming and hitting their target. They have no money, no gas in the car, no heat for the winter and no air conditioning for this summer, and now getting to where they have no food. So how much more will these people take before they become professional at surviving in the times we have now, and what will they be like and others that join them when this gets harder and who will get hurt in the process. I hate to say this, our government is not ready for this, and I don't think to many people are going to stick their neck out and help our government to try and control this if it gets out of hand. I really wonder if the government thinks we have been taught not to think, and especially think we are that stupid and weak that we won't fight back. All we have to do is just stop working, they cant work with no money either.

Now to be truthful I am a little scared of Dick Chaney, I know he can shoot his friends and would think nothing about shooting someone he doesn't know

[SilverSurfer]

Flatbedpete,

You're afraid of Dick Cheney?!! Hell, I don't live far from the fool...thank god I got my own weapon.

As to your statement -- you have hit the nail on the head regarding the not so far off future. I hate to use the term every other fool is using right now, but here it is...there is no silver bullet for the situation we're in. We have an extremely difficult battle to face, but I personally refuse to believe we've passed the point of no return. It's not too late. Right now we have an audience's attention regarding the high price of fuel and we need to capitalize on it. All of us average joe's are intelligent enough to understand the basics of what needs to happen here. Utilize our own fuel sources, build new refineries and get these two steps done quick. The perfect example I'll use to express just how fast we Americans can get shit done is the I-5 interstate overpass repair. When you get right down to it...we can accomplish feats most could only imagine. We just need to stay focused on organization efforts to accomplish the first step of reaching the masses.

Realizing the ultimate outcome is definitely rough on the mind and body. All we can do is continue to make effective attempts to change what's coming, and pray we are successful.

-ss-

[Flatbedpete]

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer Flatbedpete, You're afraid of Dick Cheney?!! Hell, I don't live far from the fool...thank god I got my own weapon. As to your statement -- you have hit the nail on the head regarding the not so far off future. I hate to use the term every other fool is using right now, but here it is...there is no silver bullet for the situation we're in. We have an extremely difficult battle to face, but I personally refuse to believe we've passed the point of no return. It's not too late. Right now we have an audience's attention regarding the high price of fuel and we need to capitalize on it. All of us average joe's are intelligent enough to understand the basics of what needs to happen here. Utilize our own fuel sources, build new refineries and get these two steps done quick. The perfect example I'll use to express just how fast we Americans can get shit done is the I-5 interstate overpass repair. When you get right down to it...we can accomplish feats most could only imagine. We just need to stay focused on organization efforts to accomplish the first step of reaching the masses. Realizing the ultimate outcome is definitely rough on the mind and body. All we can do is continue to make effective attempts to change what's coming, and pray we are successful. -ss-

I am behind you 100%, and will fight to the end. I am starting to wonder if the civil approach we are trying to get across is just getting ignored. It sure seems that way. It is amazing how important it was for a 12 year old girl stripping in a night club, Cyruses daughters pose and some other stupid shit is more important to the general public. This was televised to get the people off subject of our governmental affairs that are crippling the country. Now they have opened their eyes and realized they are getting screwed on fuel since their checking account is getting smaller. I know one war I don't want any part of, and this will work to our advantage. When the crack pads are no longer on the shelf, and the new slacks or dress is ruined. I want to video the millions of mad snapper marching up the lawn of the capital, would love to hear a BUSH tell all the other bushes out there I am sorry we just don't have the resources to take care of this now. I learned years ago to never mess with anything that bleeds for a couple of days per month and will not die. LOL

[freightmaster]

Flatbed Pete, You have every right to be afraid of whats coming as am I.
It is written in the bible and all we can do is get right with God and prepare for the worst until the day of judgment. Until that day comes I will not take their mark and will fight till the end!

[Flatbedpete]

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Originally Posted by freightmaster Flatbed Pete, You have every right to be afraid of whats coming as am I. It is written in the bible and all we can do is get right with God and prepare for the worst until the day of judgment. Until that day comes I will not take their mark and will fight till the end!

I have a good idea of the mark, but really wonder if we haven't already got it. We started with a SS# it just hasn't been to long since the bar code is keeping track of everything. I know what you are talking about,

[truckerstrike08]

[freightmaster]

REAL ID ACT...?

Portions of the Real ID Act pertaining to states were scheduled to take effect on May 11, 2008, three years after the law passed, but the deadline had been extended to December 31, 2009.[37] On January 11, 2008, it was announced the deadline has been extended again, until 2011, in hopes of gaining more support from states.[38]
On January 25, 2007, a Resolution passed overwhelmingly in the Maine Legislature that refuses implementation of the Real ID Act in that state, and demands Congress repeal the law. Many Maine lawmakers believe the law does more harm than good, that it would be a bureaucratic nightmare to enforce, is threatening to individual privacy, makes citizens increasingly vulnerable to ID theft, and would cost Maine taxpayers at least $185 million in five years because of the massive unfunded federal mandates on all the states. The Resolution vote in the Maine House was 137-4 and in the Maine Senate unanimous, 34-0.[39]
On February 16, 2007, Utah unanimously passed a resolution that opposes the REAL ID Act.[40] The resolution states that REAL ID is "in opposition to the Jeffersonian principles of individual liberty, free markets, and limited government." It further states that "the use of identification-based security cannot be justified as part of a 'layered' security system if the costs of the identification 'layer'--in dollars, lost privacy, and lost liberty--are greater than the security identification provides":

"the "common machine-readable technology" required by the REAL ID Act would convert state-issued driver licenses and identification cards into tracking devices, allowing computers to note and record people's whereabouts each time they are identified"

"the requirement that states maintain databases of information about their citizens and residents and then share this personal information with all other states will expose every state to the information security weaknesses of every other state and threaten the privacy of every American"

"the REAL ID Act wrongly coerces states into doing the federal government's bidding by threatening to refuse noncomplying states' citizens the privileges and immunities enjoyed by other states' citizens"

Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington have joined Maine and Utah in passing legislation opposing Real ID.[41][42][43][44][45] However it should be noted that most of these actions are non-binding resolutions rather than acts of law, leaving the decision about compliance to the governors themselves.



One step away from the chip implant!

[Greyfoxx]

We need to stop the bla bla bla to pass the time, and get our trails in gear and start forming an "EXXON BOYCOTT" for July 4th, and add it to a July 4th National Strike.

[Greyfoxx]

All of us need to be phoning, email, and writing to our legislators and demanding do the job they being paid to do, "To cover our backs while we are at work". No company, no branch of the government should be allowed to crush America's economy. No Company should be allowed to turn off the utilities of a elderly person who is on a fixed income ....they don't do it in Europe. Are our oil companies and utility companies so barbaric, so heartless that the few pennies they make from seniors couldn't be over looked. If the corruption of many of these companies is so ramped then our Gov should nationalize these industries. They say the government can't run these companies as efficiently. Hell I know people on minimum wage that could run these companys better.

We need to stop the bla bla bla to pass the time, and get our trails in gear and start forming an "EXXON BOYCOTT" for July 4th, and add it to a July 4th Nation Strike.

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

Why don't we all meet tonight in the lounge and get it together and decide how we are going to proceed with the EXXONBoycott. We need to get busy again with emailing our government. We have to decide on dates. Lets get everyone on the same page.

[Cerberus]

one day boycotts or shutdowns don't do shit. it has to be for the long run and permanent. but how many people here and out there are willing to just say july 4 we are no longer using exxon ever again or more drastic everybody just stops driving and delivering. if no trucks run after july 4 then what they gonna do ? but of course they have the over the border drivers who are willing to do it for cheaper and that in case would make it for a much worse situation. no easy answer here but a one day protest does nothing. they think if we have the money to shut down for a day or two then we are making enough money and they can tax more and raise prices more. it has to be a total shutdown for good til things change. without trucks america stops.

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

I'm not talking about a one day boycott on EXXON, I'm talking about a long term boycott on Exxon, until it has an impact on them.

[Cerberus]

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Originally Posted by TN. TRUCKERS WIFE I'm not talking about a one day boycott on EXXON, I'm talking about a long term boycott on Exxon, until it has an impact on them.

how long ? it needs to be permanant.

[TN. TRUCKERS WIFE]

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Originally Posted by Cerberus how long ? it needs to be permanant.

Until we have a major impact on their profits, then you move on to the next one, Shell or BP. Start it now and then we decide when we move on to the next one.

[Cerberus]

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Originally Posted by TN. TRUCKERS WIFE Until we have a major impact on their profits, then you move on to the next one, Shell or BP. Start it now and then we decide when we move on to the next one.

thats too general. something has to be set in stone. and you can't boycott truckstops cause then where would drivers fuel up ? alot of these smaller gas stations have awnings that are too small to get under with a truck. the only real answer is to stop driving completely for everybody.

[shadowdr]

Permanent or not, sure let's boycott Exxon.
Let's not forget as truckers however our boycott should extend to a truckstop chain as well. I say Pilot because they bought all the independents out at one time here. They must have more money then any other and they out of the purchase price of all of those stations. The day the pilot name went up here fuel jumped 20 cents a gallon. It is often higher then the TA's TA never advertized their diesel price untill pilot came along because it was so high.

Boycotting a truckstop chain will acomplish more then any gas company because only truckers need to be involved.
If we do this I will place big signs on my truck in support.

[freaking rookie]

YOU ARE SO RIGHT! MY Great, Great , Great Grand father, Robert Morris. A co-writer and signer of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. And financer of the American Revolution, gave his wealth and life for the very foundation of America. As well as many other men and women. Don't think women did not fight in that war. They just disquised themselves as men so they could fight for a free America with thier husbands. I will NOT stand by and watch others destroy what they stood for. And I hope others do not do the same. The weathy run our gov. We need to take it back before they wipe uot all of or rights!

[Flatbedpete]

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Originally Posted by TN. TRUCKERS WIFE I'm not talking about a one day boycott on EXXON, I'm talking about a long term boycott on Exxon, until it has an impact on them.

The truth is Exxon/Mobil will not be effected at all. They can sell and will sell to China. Our supply is only 12 - 15%. The problem is our dollar isn't worth anything. With the markets the way they are and us cutting our rates like we have to keep the market going is in the end going to bite us all. Look around people, you see what it is doing, you know what the inevitable is. We are going to have to work for crap wages and maybe two jobs to stay in the game if this keeps up. Everyone is so focused on the Hillary/Obama crap, and the only one I have heard say anything about trying to fix something is Obama. Hillary is broke and borrowing money from her own earnings to keep the campaign going. Just think what she will do if she gets in. You think we are broke now? McCain is just sitting back and says maybe another hundred years to help the middle east. What help them screw us more. Obama wants companies to stay here, people working, our infrastructure rebuilt. Now I am sorry if this offends people. I don't care if the person is green or yellow, if they have an idea and it will work, I am for getting something done. If Colin Powell and Schwartskoph were to run, They would have my vote hands down. The only reason fuel is so high is because our government has made asinine agreements to further line their pockets that they never thought would come back and bite them. Just look at what they are doing to help the situation - ABSOLUTELY NOTHING because they can't without violating the agreements they signed.