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Old 03-15-2008   #21
 
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Hi guys, id just like to post this in response to the UTDA being brought up.

We are a Non-Profit, Charitable Organization representing the interests and supporting the wellbeing of professional truck drivers and their families in the United States and Canada.
By implementing fundraisers, the generous donations of our members, and the support of our sponsors, we are able to provide some relief to truck drivers and their families during hard times due to health, death or natural disasters’.
We also work closely with other Charitable Organizations’ and Government agencies for assistance and relief.

As we are growing at a fast and steady pace, we are also getting more involved in advocating for the truck driver, our goals are to work with other important Associations, Organizations’ and Companies to ensure that the truck drivers interests will be considered before anything else.
We will work closely with companies to ensure that proper treatment, pay and respect are always given to the truck driver & to remind companies that truck drivers are hard working people with families to support just like anyone else.

In the last 10 or so years, the trucking industry and the truck driver went from being well respected and honored, to a nuisance and an eyesore for everyone to cringe at.
Our volunteers and staff Members are working everyday to educate our Communities, about truck drivers and the trucking industry, to place a positive image and outlook back into the hearts and minds of people everywhere.


We can’t do it alone!
Your membership is needed to help us make a difference in our industry, to make our voice herd to help your fellow trucking brothers and sisters during these hard times.
Don’t worry, Membership is free, and donations are helpful, but certainly not required.
The single most important thing you can do is join the UTDA now! as our members are our voice, and without you, we cannot be herd.
well i went to your web site, and i read everything you pasted here.........

what's the matter, can't free type anything....??

well i CAN.........

i don't think that i would want to join up, sign up, whatever up.........

we have the OOIDA, a REAL organization, that doesn't seem to be taking donations for providing funds for troubled truckers. i do not believe in donating my money to someone else who can't put away money or run a business properly. why should i support someone else when he/she fails to provide themselves....??

if an o/o or company driver CAN NOT pay the bills, then GET OUT OF TRUCKING.......plain and simple...........

your "mission statement" is not impressing me at all. you claim to be a "non-profit" charitable organization..............you had better be prepared to disclose ALL MONIES taken in and spent/distributed, ANY TIME, ANY ONE asks for that disclosure..........which by the way, i am asking for that information, publicly right now..........

failure on your part to disclose this information, as i have asked, results in your trying to hide something................in effect, a scam.............

you've been challenged...............

nope, we got one organization, the OOIDA, i'll stick with them.........
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well i went to your web site, and i read everything you pasted here.........

what's the matter, can't free type anything....??

well i CAN.........

i don't think that i would want to join up, sign up, whatever up.........

we have the OOIDA, a REAL organization, that doesn't seem to be taking donations for providing funds for troubled truckers. i do not believe in donating my money to someone else who can't put away money or run a business properly. why should i support someone else when he/she fails to provide themselves....??

if an o/o or company driver CAN NOT pay the bills, then GET OUT OF TRUCKING.......plain and simple...........

your "mission statement" is not impressing me at all. you claim to be a "non-profit" charitable organization..............you had better be prepared to disclose ALL MONIES taken in and spent/distributed, ANY TIME, ANY ONE asks for that disclosure..........which by the way, i am asking for that information, publicly right now..........

failure on your part to disclose this information, as i have asked, results in your trying to hide something................in effect, a scam.............

you've been challenged...............

nope, we got one organization, the OOIDA, i'll stick with them.........
Im sorry to inform you that the UTDA is infact, a real organization.
I'm personally a member of OOIDA, and they do a wonderful job advocating for us in our nations capital.
Nobody is asking you to join the UTDA and quit the OOIDA, we are not competitors in any form.

Our mission clearly states we raise funds to help truckers and their families due to Health, Death and Natural Disasters.
Not to help out people that cant manage their money correctly.

The main thing we ask for is your membership, and state very clearly that donations are accepted, but certinly not required."And membership is free"
So i fail to see the scam.
Support, Advocacy and Education is our mission statement.

Roughly our monthly bills are about $300.00
This includes office supplies, phone, and web service.
In the last 2 months, are total donations have been: $160.00
Keep in mind we are a new organization, and we officially launched 2 months ago.

Besides our website, you can call 1-888-860-UTDA for more information
And I invite you, or anyone with questions to call.
Ill go a step further and provide my cell phone number, and you can contact me personally (pro1driver) 330-420-5182 And I invite you, to do so.

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Im sorry to inform you that the UTDA is infact, a real organization.
Our mission clearly states we raise funds to help truckers and their families due to Health, Death and Natural Disasters.
this is what insurance is for. you pay the premiums, you file a claim.

if an O/O cannot afford to buy insurance..

THEN GET OUT OF TRUCKING....its that simple. i would then have to question if an O/O doesn't have health or home insurance, then how can we safely assume he has truck insurance as well...??

sorry buddy, donating to an O/O isn't in the cards. they wanted to be o/o's...?? then they got to pay thier own way...

same goes for a company driver. if he ain't working for a company that at least provides affordable insurance at cost, then he either needs to find a better job, or get into another line of work.

too many "organizations" these days want our "donations", and i say, "enough is enough"..."pay your own way, or get out".....
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I think you may be spending to much time in your truck.
You should get out and read a paper, id like to quote this story.
Health insurance is not that affordable anymore, especially if you have a family to support.
And unless you are trained in something else, you just cant get out of trucking, as per your quote.
Things have changed a lot in the last 30 years, and as you don't see a need for the UTDA, their are about 6,900 and growing other people that would disagree with you.
Like it or not, we are here to stay, and were getting bigger everyday.

On another note, were are still seeking the truck driver in the news story "Robert Griffith of Lebanon, TN" and would like to offer to pay for his daughters prom dress.
If anyone knows Mr. Griffith please contact us at 888-860-UTDA
We are having a hard time tracking him down as there are 4 or 5 different Lebanon's in TN.
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I think you may be spending to much time in your truck.
You should get out and read a paper, id like to quote this story.
Health insurance is not that affordable anymore, especially if you have a family to support.
And unless you are trained in something else, you just cant get out of trucking, as per your quote.
Things have changed a lot in the last 30 years, and as you don't see a need for the UTDA, their are about 6,900 and growing other people that would disagree with you.
Like it or not, we are here to stay, and were getting bigger everyday.

On another note, were are still seeking the truck driver in the news story "Robert Griffith of Lebanon, TN" and would like to offer to pay for his daughters prom dress.
If anyone knows Mr. Griffith please contact us at 888-860-UTDA
We are having a hard time tracking him down as there are 4 or 5 different Lebanon's in TN.

if health insurance isn't "affordable" anymore, then the 'smart' o/o should raise his/her rates to reflect the cost of living..........to fail to raise rates spells doom, and i for one will be there to pick up the laods when they are out of business. its competition that keeps things moving. stay stagnant, and die...........how do you think the "big companies" survive...?? by keeping thier rates low.....??? i think not. and don't start that argument, "big companies have MORE trucks, so they can do it cheaper", because that ain't true. if they don't raise thier rates, they fold up and go out of business as well.

if any o/o cannot pay his bills, he needs to go out of business.............

you can argue this all you want.....

but to pay bills (or now a prom dress) for someone who can't rub two pennies together amounts to welfare...............and if any business owner needs welfare, then sell out, and flip frigging hamburgers..........

oh yeah, that story you linked to......SO WHAT......???

he's crying is he.....???

sell out, this is a competitive market, and the strong survive...............

i have no compassion for any business person that can't make ends meet..........why have a business then, when you can collect welfare form a "semi-quasi organization" like yours....????

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C/P of a mssg. I posted on another site: {Bullwinkle you can figure out which site lol}

I have just got done looking at several different trucking sites and a few news sites, what I am seeing is that the word strike is being used a lot!!!
the way it looks its not a matter of IF but WHEN. what worries me is the longer it takes the uglier it is gonna get and lets face it even the die hard it will never happen crowd are changing their tune, news sites in CA,TX,ME,GA, NC all had news of groups of truckers saying that they are about broke and are ready to strike.
I think what will light the fuse to this powder keg is there is going to be a small group of truckers that are going to shut down somewhere and make the news that will set off a chain reaction that will end up with everyone shutting down.
In 74 it basically started that way with a few trucks just shutting down all lanes of the highway somewhere and it snowballed from there and it did get ugly, I was hoping that it could be done with someone setting up an agenda and having the backing of most of the drivers out here but I think that it is going to just happen spontaneously.
My personal view is slightly different than most I've seen so far. I think that we need to get the word out not only to truckers, but to everyone! If we all stood together as a UNITED PEOPLE -truckers-four wheelers- large and small businesses, everyone...Closed our doors-shut down-went on strike whatever the jargain, we could hold another "Boston Tea Party", so to speak and take OUR power back. WE THE PEOPLE-for years we have all been led around like cattle to the slaughter by none other than GOVERNMENT. With all that is finally being realized about this NORTH AMERICAN TREATY- signed by BUSH without even the slightest thought of consulting WE THE PEOPLE things are only going to continue to get worse. Recently news has also been shown on television about all the NOBEL PEACE PRIZES recently issued for CURES to all sorts of diseases. Government stiffled this information and allowed the drug companies to make BILLIONS and BILLIONS off of WE THE PEOPLE selling us prescription drugs that (as we have seen many many times on the commercials) have major side effects and that are killing us. Countless lives have been lost. Chips are being implanted into people. These chips are a tracking device to keep us INLINE. Have you all heard about the WORLD ID yet? Many of you are not even getting a pay check instead your money is being put on ComCheck cards or it goes to direct deposit. Don't kid yourself by thinking that if you anger the POWER THAT BE, that your chip can't be turned off. Life as we have known it in the past will never again be unless we stand UNITED. Ever READ that job application ? The first thing trucking companies do by order of Government (49 CFR 391.23(d) and (e) is sign away your right completely. Truckers for years have just been doing as they are told. Recently an application that came to my attention stated, "This Contract Executed In Arkansas" when in truth it was signed in the state of Georgia. The Company was specifically questioned reguarding this statement within the contract and they danced around the issue saying that is where their offices are. Actually they run Indiana Base Plates. Guess who the COMPANY is? We need to make a good solid plan and allstand UNITED, they have been re-writing our Constitution for years without WE THE PEOPLE even being included and we all know it. All of what I have written here can be discovered online if you search. I know truckers don't have time to read all the issues as you are all out there trying to support your families. I AM a DISABLED LADY TRUCKER not just my e-mail handle. I have been disabled since 1996. I've had ten major sugeries since my back injury. I have spent all these years going this research that is why I implore every one of you to stand at attention to this information. Our food sources have also been tampered with- growth hormones a decision of Government-farmers are told how much they can plant, what they have to plant, they are told if they can sell and at what costs etc. now they want to have the same control over truckers. Wake up please!!! Lets set a date, get the word out and just do it! No more TALKING ABOUT IT AND CHANGING OUR MINDS, or complaing about how we can't afford it. We can't NOT afford it. We're loosing ground every day. We need to do this before election is finalized.
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"Actually they run Indiana Base Plates. Guess who the COMPANY is?"
i don't have time to guess, just tell us, if you even think you know.....

there will be no strike.

nearly everyone votes the "same party" not the individual person running for office.

we can actually split our votes for either party, we don't have to pull that master lever.

but because so many millions of people vote solely for republicans or solely for democrats, we allow the "same ol' same ol' process, and we complain about it.........

the rest of what you said is basically "rhetoric" we've all heard before.

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any strike dates been set yet?
two dates have emerged its the 3/24 and 4/1
3/24 seems to be the one everyone is settling on
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There are situations when everyone needs help.
Example: If you get hurt on the truck or have an illness that takes a long time to recover from, or a terminal illness or in any other situation that can arise and there isn't any revenue coming in, but the bills go on, you're going to need some help.

How do I know, been there and done that. I've been dealing with the health problems and expenses that resulted from an accident in 1998, it's cost me a fortune, money I didn't have. My family can't help, so my husband and I deal with it our own. The second you think that you'll never need any help you will, I was that way, didn't need anyone, wouldn't take help the whole pride deal.

Yes you should have an emergency fund that covers ALL the expenses for at least 3 months, 6 months would be better. In some cases that's not enough.

You should have insurance that covers the truck payments while your disabled too, but most people don't, most don't have the emergency funds saved either. I know alot of people that can't afford health care, and everyday more and more people are having to decide if they want to make the house payment or insurance payment. I know you've seen or heard the debates that talk about a national health care program.

Either way when the insurance runs out and it will, where does the revenue come from if you still aren't able to work? It doesn't and things can get really hard especially when you have a family, and perhaps your spouse stays home and doesn't work. If you have workers comp, or some other kind accidental injury policy that doesn't normally come close to covering just the normal day to day expenses, let alone the expenses that you have when you own a truck.
That's the kind of situation that UTDA was created to help out in. Not make truck payments or things like that.

They don't charge any membership fees but they do accept donations, most websites do, even mine!

I don't tell anyone where that money goes or what it's used for, they donated it and it's my job to distribute it for the betterment of the site. UTDA is set up with the IRS as a non profit, and everything that I've been able to find out about them has been on the up and up. They work with ATA, OOIDA and and some other organizations.

They aren't set up as best as I can to help people make truck payments or anything like that. They are there to help the truckers and the families of truckers period. Take the time to really FIND out what they are about before you pass judgment.

As far as free typing, shoot I love copy cut and paste, why retype it 500 times? It's not being lazy it's working smarter not harder which I am all for.
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