Ron Paul for PRESIDENT

[Bullwinkle]

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Originally Posted by rebel Uh, hey maybe you haven't heard but the telecommunication companies admitted under oath to Congress last week that they had not only listened but recorded millions of law-abiding citizens ph. calls and turned them over to gov. to sift thru. Can you say 4th amendment? This isn't wacko consp. theory - it really happened. Verified under oath. By regular businessmen, not ploiticos or media. I hate to tell you but that's not oatmeal they've been feeding you.

Can you post a link to that? I am very interested in reading up on this.

[BANDIT]

Sitting here trying to figure out why the rest of you are arguing with ronin & two timer, two simple, close-minded, republican puppets who can't see past what their close-minded republican puppet parents taught them when they were too young and dumb to think for themselves......Now they have been brain washed for so many years they still can't think for themselves. Believe it or not, they actually think their government is on THEIR SIDE....Now That's Funny.......Have An Awesome Day

[rebel]

Yeah Bull ,I'll go look and give it a try - I just learned how.

And bandit's right - I have gotten thru brick walls before but Rome is burnin and I ain't got time to fiddle with Nero

[BANDIT]

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Originally Posted by rebel Yeah Bull ,I'll go look and give it a try - I just learned how. And bandit's right - I have gotten thru brick walls before but Rome is burnin and I ain't got time to fiddle with Nero

"Good Answer".....

[rebel]

I looked thru C-SPAN library and didn't see it.
2 possible reasons.
1) editing for classified mat'l
2)vacation and haven't posted yet

Either way I remember what I saw. They wanted immunity from prosecution 'cause they had rerouted 4 million domestic calls a day and didn't want to be sued.

I gotta get ready for recon trip to Atlanta CNN. It's a drive slow wed.
Daylite's burnin

And if Big Brother is listening, my name is not Mohammed, I was born in U.S. along with many generations and I am a patriot.

[ronin]

We get recorded EVERY time you call your local utility company, department store, many employers, and definitely any government office. You're notified that "this call may be recorded". In fact, based on my PI line of work, my cell phone answer message reads "this call may be recorded and transferred for security or administrative purposes".

This very post I'm making, and the one you just posted are easily searchable through Google or any other search engine.

In fact, if you Google "Jim Lewis" (me) and "Craig Kimmel" (the managing partner of the lawfirm I worked for and add "extra", you'll get a magazine/talk show article I did back in 2001.

There is NO reasonable expectation of privacy, unless you whisper is someone's ear..and then you have to trust the person not to repeat what you said.

[lunachic]

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Originally Posted by rebel I looked thru C-SPAN library and didn't see it. 2 possible reasons. 1) editing for classified mat'l 2)vacation and haven't posted yet Either way I remember what I saw. They wanted immunity from prosecution 'cause they had rerouted 4 million domestic calls a day and didn't want to be sued. I gotta get ready for recon trip to Atlanta CNN. It's a drive slow wed. Daylite's burnin And if Big Brother is listening, my name is not Mohammed, I was born in U.S. along with many generations and I am a patriot.

lol, my hubby del. at the crystal river nuke plant last week, now we have port badge's and all and they held him 2 day's, got so ticked off after they kept scanning the truck/load / trailer and him, He walked up to the office and told them if they did'nt take the load he was leaving, then made the comment we might have a prez. named obama, but a guy born in Jersey can't get in, They took the load and he wont go back..lol

[freightmaster]

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Originally Posted by ronin The funny thing is that the guys who bash the government and "organizations" usually don't qualify to be a member of any organizations or to serve the government....kinda funny. Saw that a lot with the lawfirm I worked for - they'd talk all their stuff, but would have never considered taking up arms to actually work and defend their country. Want to talk smack about the government, conspiracies, or private organizations? I think you need to be willing to get involved or volunteer for service before your opinion should be counted, versus just slinging silly crap from your easy chair....

I am a US Army Vet. As for being a part of the gov or your secret organizations? They are one in the same!
I will dig you up some "facts" so stick around!
I will start with the Freemasons attempt to collect biometric data on our children! MYCHIP I think its called?

MYCHIP (Masonic Youth Child Identification Program) has identified more than 250,000 children since its inception in 1988, and it continues to assist families today. The program provides tools to help law enforcement authorities find and identify a lost or missing child. The Masons of Massachusetts, parterning with the Massachusetts Crime Prevention Officers Association and the Massachusetts Dental Association, donate MYCHIP resources to make this service available to the public. None of the materials are copies and all the identifying materials are given to the child's family.

The Free Program Materials


VIDEOTAPE: A brief videotaped interview that can be quickly distributed to the media in order to reach a huge audience. FINGERPRINTING: Fingerprinting is a well-known means of identification. Resourceful parents keep fingerprints available should the need arise.
TOOTHPRINTS: A tooth print bite impression is quick and easy. Teeth, like fingerprints are unique. A dental imprint gives both accurate and important information for identification purposes.
CHEEKSWAB: A Q-tip is gently rubbed on the inside of a child’s cheek to gather DNA material.


Have a MYCHIP Event in your Community


If you would like a local Masonic lodge to organize a MYCHIP event in your community, please call 617.426.6040 x4214, or email your request to mychip@massfreemasonry.org. MYCHIP can be held at schools, public events, or for your private group – anywhere a large group of children will be present.

When contacting us, please provide your name, contact information, and the city or town where you would like the event to be held.

masonic child identification program - Yahoo! Search Results

The revolution is still alive!

[Bullwinkle]

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Originally Posted by Blakowt13 WE THE PEOPLE are not ready for RON PAUL which is the main reason he faltered for support.

The reasons he has faltered for support are as follows:

1. The Media kept him pushed into a corner. For ever minute that was given to the frontrunners to talk about an issue, Paul was given about 10 seconds then quickly moved away from. It was sickening to watch this happen, but exactly what I would expect from our media.
2. Funding - Kudos to a man who doesn't cater to big businesses just to get money and support. Unfortunately, honesty and integrity gets you buried in politics these days.

I think THE PEOPLE are ready, unfortunately special interest groups, big business, and the majority of politicians out there are not ready.

We are in an era where it is becoming increasingly important to take our Country back and make our Government work for us as it was intended. Unfortunately, only a very small percentage of people will take the time to try to make this happen. The rest will simply vote down party lines (because their access to other candidates is very limited) as usual and until that changes, this Country won't change.

[freightmaster]

Check this series of videos out! Then see how many participants are murdered!

YouTube - RARE 1983PART 1 Jesuit Infiltration Ex...

[freightmaster]

The Jesuit Oath... Read it and weap!

YouTube - JESUIT OATH

[ronin]

I'm not a Jesuit, not even Catholic....and the Masons of Massachusetts sponsor a program to help recover children if they're kidnapped, and you think it's for biometric information? The SPCA does the same thing to puppies so they can be recovered when they run away from our yards....and its not a conspiracy.

The organization DONATED money to fund a program that protects our kids, and its some sort of conspiracy? Please....there is some WARPED thinking going on here, and its time to put down the science fiction novels.

[ronin]

So, I guess when my Masonic Lodge in PA held a "waffles and ice cream" booth at the Perkasie Town Festival each year, generating over $5000 that we used to fund college scholarships and little league team uniforms......we were participating in some vast conspiracy to biometrically influence young people? That's weird, I always thought that was just volunteering and contributing to help our communities.

[freightmaster]

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Originally Posted by ronin So, I guess when my Masonic Lodge in PA held a "waffles and ice cream" booth at the Perkasie Town Festival each year, generating over $5000 that we used to fund college scholarships and little league team uniforms......we were participating in some vast conspiracy to biometrically influence young people? That's weird, I always thought that was just volunteering and contributing to help our communities.

In this world we live in today, things are not always as they appear.impo

I have no doubt you believe in your cause...peace

[2xR]

Paranoia is contagious, and, there is an epidemic going on. It's probably air-borne, but, just to be safe, don't drink any kool-aid.

[ronin]

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Originally Posted by BANDIT Sitting here trying to figure out why the rest of you are arguing with ronin & two timer, two simple, close-minded, republican puppets who can't see past what their close-minded republican puppet parents taught them when they were too young and dumb to think for themselves......Now they have been brain washed for so many years they still can't think for themselves. Believe it or not, they actually think their government is on THEIR SIDE....Now That's Funny.......Have An Awesome Day

Hmmmm....guess I just saw this - that's some seriously insulting stupidity right there, buddy. I'm an independent, if its any of your business; my parents didn't teach me much about anything political or government-related, mainly because they didn't pay much attention to all that stuff, and I can think for myself with a boatload of common sense, despite formal education trying to drive that part out.

If this is just a personal bashing session by some internet bully hiding behind his keyboard between visits from lot lizards, I'll take my leave of the conversation with respect, and a strong understanding that you haven't the slightest clue about anything possible to begin judging me with.

[rebel]

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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle Can you post a link to that? I am very interested in reading up on this.

Tried again to find on cspan. Meeting was on 6/20/08. Reported about but I think it was closed. There might be something I can find on news reports.
Sorry ,I was walking thru kitchen when I heard it and haven't seen it again

[rebel]

Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecoms Amnesty ...

[rebel]

t r u t h o u t | Congress Poised to Grant Telcoms Spying Immunity



That's the best I could do, Bull. Maybe you can track it down.
I now think they were showing testimony from March hearings during that report because latest hearings were in closed session. Funny thing is 2 days ago C-span had videos of March hearings now they sayzero matches on all my searches. Huh.

[freightmaster]

"To live in this process is absolutely not to be able to notice it—please try to believe me—unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us had ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted,’ that, unless one were detached from the whole process from the beginning, unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these ‘little measures’ that no ‘patriotic German’ could resent must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.

The Truth Seeker - They Thought They Were Free


Could history be repeating itself?