food for thought on politics

[gearjammer]

John Glenn (DEMOCRAT) said this ----- It should make
us all think a little:

There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in
January.

In the fair city
of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January.

That's just one
American cit y, about as deadly as the entire
war-torn country of Iraq .

When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have
started this war, tell
them the following:

FDR (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II.

Germany never attacked us; Japan
did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... an
average of 112,500 per year.

Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea .

North Korea never attacked us.

From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives
were lost ... an average of 18,334 per year.

John F.Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam
conflict in 1962.

Vietnam never attacked us.

Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turned Vietnam into a quagmire.

From 1965-1975, 58,000
lives were lost ... an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war in Bosnia without UN
or French consent.

Bosnia never attacked us.

He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a
platter three times by Sudan and did nothing.

Osama
has attacked us on multiple occasions.

This one is a fact that makes me mad as hell.

In the years since terrorists attacked us, President
Bush has liberated two
countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida,
put nuclear inspectors in
Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot,
and captured a
terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

And the Democrats are
complaining about how long the war is taking.

But Wait, There's more.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet
Reno (DEMOCRAT) to take
the Branch Davidian compound.

That was a 51-day operation.

We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons
in Iraq for less time
than it took Hillary Clinton (DEMOCRAT) to find the
Rose law firm billing
records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and
the Marines to destroy
the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy
to call the police
after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count
the votes in Florida

Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The
Military morale is high!

The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to
realize the facts.

But Wait ...There's more!

JOHN GLENN (on the Senate floor - January 26, 2004)

Some people still don't understand why military
personnel do what they do
for a living.

This exchange between Senators John
Glenn and Senator Howard
Metzenbaum is worth reading.

Not only is it a pretty
impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's
explanation of why men and
women in the armed services do what they do for a
living.

This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some
who have never served
think of the military.

Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):

'How can you run for Senate when you've never held a
real job?'

Senator Glenn (D-Ohio): 'I served 23 years in the
United States Marine
Corps. I served through two wars.

I flew 149 missions.

My plane was hit
by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions.

I was in the space program.

It wasn't mycheckbook, Howard; it was my
life on the line.

It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took
time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank.

I ask you to go
with me, as I went the
other day... to a veteran's hospital and look those
men ... with their
mangled bodies ... in the eye, and tell THEM they
didn't hold a job!

You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go,
as I have gone, to the
widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and
Roger Chaffee ... and you
look those kids in the eye and tell them that their
DAD'S didn't hold a job.

You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in
Arlington National Cemetery,
where I have more friends buried than I'd like to
remember, and you watch
those waving flags.

You stand there, and you think
about this nation, and
you have the gall to tell ME that those people
didn't have a job?

What about Metzenbaum? For those who don't remember During W. W. II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the
Communist Party in the USA .

Now he's a Senator!

If you can read this, thank a teacher.

If you are reading it in English

thank a Veteran.

It might not be a bad idea to keep this circulating.
I AM!!!

[rebel]

19 out of 23 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis.
Osama bin Laden - born and raised in Saudi Arabia
Logically then we invade..................Iraq(?)

I have tremendous respect for anyone who serves this great country and don't hesitate to tell them so when we pass on the street. As a registered Independent I can only say that the best way to support our troops is to send them a plane ticket home asap.

God bless and Godspeed

[NCstroker]

John Glenn never said the first part. That is smply an annonymous chain letter thats been going around the internet since 2005.

The second part regarding what John Glenn said to Howard Metzenbaum is only partialy correct. John Glenn did say these words. But not in 2004, but in a debate in 1974 when both were seeking the democratic nomination for senate in Ohio. Also not in the same context as you have made it. A few days before the debate Metzenbaum citing that John Glenn had made a career out of serving in the military and had no private sector business experience made a comment that Glenn had "never met a payroll". Glenn took the comment as "never had a real job" and during the debate brought it up in which he made the above rehearsed statment. Metzenbaum was also not an attorney for the communists. He was a businessman who started the Sun newspaper chain.

snopes.com: John Glenn 'I Have Held a Job!' Quote

[gearjammer]

does it really matte who said what, when???

I saw this and the facts in the article is what is important!!!


why is it people cannot see the forest because of the trees

[truckers2unite]

nice post jammer

[NCstroker]

Quote:

Originally Posted by gearjammer does it really matte who said what, when??? I saw this and the facts in the article is what is important!!! why is it people cannot see the forest because of the trees

Yeah it does matter.... How do YOU know "everything" in that chain letter (not article) is a fact? Not saying it isn't. But after all, it gives John Glenn credit for saying it which is wrong. It gives John Glenn credit for saying something in 2004 when in fact he said it in 1974. It claims a direct question was asked of Glenn which never happened. It calls someone a communist attorney which is also wrong. My bad for not ignoring false statments just because I like what it says.

[freightmaster]

I believe Johnson started the Vietnam war not Kennedy! Kennedy was eliminated because he was in their (neocons) way...impo After all, Poppy Bush was the head of the CIA!

(August 2004) Remembering three million Vietnamese. In july 1964 the U.S.S. Maddox, a destroyer of the United States Navy, was patrolling the gulf coast seeking reconnaissance about the North Vietnamese. president Lyndon Johnson ordered illegal, covert operations in the gulf of Tonkin against the North Vietnam. When the Vietnamese retaliated by shooting torpedoes to the American warships, Johnson declared that a new Pearl Harbour had occurred: the communists of Vietnam had attacked harmless American ships. That caused an outrage in the USA, and eventually led Congress on 7 August 1964 to pass the the "Gulf of Tonkin Resolution", which authorized president Johnson to bomb Vietnam (which he had already ordered anyway). Johnson had deliberately fabricated a gigantic lie. Three million Vietnamese (mostly civilians) and 30,000 USA soldiers lost their lives in a war that lasted ten years.
It was a disgrace from all points of view, not only because it was the first war lost by the USA. The USA used weapons of mass destruction (the same weapons that Saddam Hussein used against the Kurds). The USA supported a ruthless puppet regime in South Vietnam that was despised by the population. In 1965, unbeknown to the American people, Johnson ordered a secret bombing campaign of Laos, a peaceful state that bordered on Vietnam. In 1969, the new US president, Richard Nixon, ordered a land invasion of Cambodia. These presidents consistently lied to the American people. Nixon swore he would never conduct the bombing of Cambodia while he had just ordered it. Nixon ordered the carpet bombing of North Vietnam's rice fields knowing that only women and children were in those fields. Those rice fields are still dotted with thousands of graves.

Vietnam

You can fool some of the people some of the time but you cant fool all of the people all of the time! Does 9/11 raise any eyebrows?

[gearjammer]

Kennedy started it when he sent in advisers it escalated from there Johnson inherited the mess